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VanillaGorilla · 03-03-2013, 08:53 AM

If I don't finish this HOF by the time OOTP 14 comes out, oh well. I'm not getting paid for this, and part of the fun for me is doing the write ups. So, since I am getting paid in fun only, I am not going to cut my wages.

It is cool that three pitchers that were RL contemporaries join the HOF together. It is also cool to note that all of them get in on the Veteran Standard.

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Mike Mussina was taken with the 4th overall pick by the Royals in 1982. As a rookie in 1983 he no hit the Angels, surrendering just one walk and striking out 7. He finished his rookie campaign with a 15-11 record and an OOTP ERA of 3.53 (npa ERA+ 116).

Not known as a strikeout pitcher, Mussina did rack up 2520 Ks (70th) in his career that spanned through the 2002 season. In 3267 IP (62nd), he was the devil on hitters as he surrendered only 666 walks.

Mussina won 20 games 4 times, but he never won a CYA. He posted a career mark of 235 (16th) -135 and an OOTP ERA of 3.23 (35th) for an excellent npa ERA+ of 135. His .6351 win % is 12th best in league history.

He appeared in 8 post seasons, 2 WS, but came up short on capturing a championship. Mussina was a 6 time All Star.

Black Ink: 14 (15)
Gray Ink: 175 (250)
HOFm: 115.9 (121)
HOFs: 52 (54)

Gorilla Composite: 2.9 (3.4)

Using this Hall's Standards as applied to RL stats, Mike Mussina should be inducted into the RL HOF.

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Darryl Kile's induction is a bitter sweet one, for me. I thank Jordan for his comment in the previous thread that made me look upon Kile's induction as something other than sad.

It is sadly ironic (and gives me a pained smile, at the same time) that Kile enters this HOF as the oldest pitcher to be inducted, at age 82.

Darryl Kile was selected by the Twins in 1974 with the 8th pick overall. Like Mussina, he won 20 games 4 times in his career before retiring after the 1991 season. In his rookie season of 1975, quality pitchers were few, and those that were in the league dominated. Kile was one of those as he struck out 396 (7th) batters while walking 89 and posting a 22-14 record.

He had his best season in 1977 when he won 30 games (2nd, 1 of 4 pitchers to win 30) and lost 8. He struck out 332 men and posted an OOTP ERA of 2.62 (npa ERA+ 173).

He won 228 (19th) games vs 180 losses and had a career OOTP ERA of 3.46 (npa ERA+ 117) which ranks him 78th, in that category. He struck out 2995 batters (32nd), threw 142 CGs (10th), of which 24 were shutouts (t-16th).

In 1984, pitching for the Phillies, he tossed a 6 hit shutout in the LCS. The Phillies lost the series to Houston. This was his only career post season appearance.

Kile was an All Star 4 times.

Kile is the 25th player to be named to both OOTP HOFs.

Black Ink: 14 (1)
Gray Ink: 129 (82)
HOFm: 95 (31)
HOFs: 41 (12)

Gorilla Composite: 2.4 (0.9)

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If there is one player that I have been tempted to show favoritism towards, more than anyone else, it would have to be fellow OOTP addict Curt Schilling. He was screened the same season that Bob Horner entered this Hall. I thought it would be super cool if they went in together because the absolute best baseball story I have read on these boards was Curt's reminiscence of Spring Training with Mssr Horner.

I don't have the post handy, but someone can feel free to post a link to it, here, if they have it.

As tempted as I was, I let the process just work itself out. At the age of 61, Curt Schilling joins this HOF.

Schilling was selected in the 1994 draft by the Dodgers at the age of 19. In his first 3 seasons he made 74 appearances, 53 of them in relief.

In 1998 he became a full time starter. Over the next 4 seasons he put up very good stat geek numbers (npa ERA+ between 127-186 each season, K/W > 3 each season) but was one game below .500 in that stretch. Perhaps the Dodgers being 90 games under .500 had something to do with it.

Seeking to join a contender, Schilling left as a Free Agent and joined the Royals in 2002 (yes, this is quite the alternative reality). In 2002 he made his first of 4 ASGs and posted a 16-6 record with an OOTP ERA of 3.47 (npa ERA+ 127). In 233 2/3 IP, he struck out 254 men. After his playing days, Curt Schilling would make the astute public declaration on a gaming message board that "walks suck." In 2002, he walked only 47 for a K/W rate better than 5.

The Royals team he joined had Inaugural Class HOFer George Davies as a 37 year-old veteran. It also boasted future HOFers Duke Snider and Jimmy Walsh. Add the newest HOF inductee to that group, and it is no surprise that the Royals won the World Series in 2002, defeating the Brewers 4 games to 2. To get to the WS, the Royals had to knock off the Red Sox in the LCS.

In 2003, Curt had his best season to date, at least in the eyes of the writers, as he won 20 games for the first time in his career and also struck out 300 for the first time. The writers thought that was worth a CYA. The Royals lost the WS in 6 games to the Mets. Wait till next year....

2004 was Schilling's finest season, as he won a 2nd straight CYA, led the Royals to their 3rd straight WS, and helped them win their second title in three years.

Schilling won a career high 23 games vs 7 losses. His OOTP ERA of 2.48 was his lowest career mark and the 182 npa ERA+ was his career best. He pitched 261 innings, surrendered just 195 hits and 53 walks (WHIP = 0.95) and struck out 275.

George Davies and Jimmy Walsh were still with the team for this title run.

For his career, Schilling won 222 games (t-22nd, Matt Kilroy) and lost 179. His OOTP ERA of 3.52 (95th) works out to an excellent HOF npa ERA+ of 131. He struck out 3443 (17th, one fewer than Justin Verlander) batters while walking 911.

Schilling appeared in 4 ASGs. He has one career save to his credit. He retired following the 2015 season.

In 17 career post season starts, Schilling posted an 8-3 record.

Black Ink: 30 (42)
Gray Ink: 170 (205)
HOFm: 132.3 (171)
HOFs: 42 (46)

Gorilla Composite: 3.2 (4.0)

Like Mussina, Schilling should be inducted into the RL HOF on the basis of the model in work for this HOF when applied to RL records.

03-03-2013, 08:53 AM	#51
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371 Blog Entries: 2	Class of 2036 (1964), Pitchers: Mussina, Kile, Schilling If I don't finish this HOF by the time OOTP 14 comes out, oh well. I'm not getting paid for this, and part of the fun for me is doing the write ups. So, since I am getting paid in fun only, I am not going to cut my wages. It is cool that three pitchers that were RL contemporaries join the HOF together. It is also cool to note that all of them get in on the Veteran Standard. ------------------------- Mike Mussina was taken with the 4th overall pick by the Royals in 1982. As a rookie in 1983 he no hit the Angels, surrendering just one walk and striking out 7. He finished his rookie campaign with a 15-11 record and an OOTP ERA of 3.53 (npa ERA+ 116). Not known as a strikeout pitcher, Mussina did rack up 2520 Ks (70th) in his career that spanned through the 2002 season. In 3267 IP (62nd), he was the devil on hitters as he surrendered only 666 walks. Mussina won 20 games 4 times, but he never won a CYA. He posted a career mark of 235 (16th) -135 and an OOTP ERA of 3.23 (35th) for an excellent npa ERA+ of 135. His .6351 win % is 12th best in league history. He appeared in 8 post seasons, 2 WS, but came up short on capturing a championship. Mussina was a 6 time All Star. Black Ink: 14 (15) Gray Ink: 175 (250) HOFm: 115.9 (121) HOFs: 52 (54) Gorilla Composite: 2.9 (3.4) Using this Hall's Standards as applied to RL stats, Mike Mussina should be inducted into the RL HOF. ------------------------------------ Darryl Kile's induction is a bitter sweet one, for me. I thank Jordan for his comment in the previous thread that made me look upon Kile's induction as something other than sad. It is sadly ironic (and gives me a pained smile, at the same time) that Kile enters this HOF as the oldest pitcher to be inducted, at age 82. Darryl Kile was selected by the Twins in 1974 with the 8th pick overall. Like Mussina, he won 20 games 4 times in his career before retiring after the 1991 season. In his rookie season of 1975, quality pitchers were few, and those that were in the league dominated. Kile was one of those as he struck out 396 (7th) batters while walking 89 and posting a 22-14 record. He had his best season in 1977 when he won 30 games (2nd, 1 of 4 pitchers to win 30) and lost 8. He struck out 332 men and posted an OOTP ERA of 2.62 (npa ERA+ 173). He won 228 (19th) games vs 180 losses and had a career OOTP ERA of 3.46 (npa ERA+ 117) which ranks him 78th, in that category. He struck out 2995 batters (32nd), threw 142 CGs (10th), of which 24 were shutouts (t-16th). In 1984, pitching for the Phillies, he tossed a 6 hit shutout in the LCS. The Phillies lost the series to Houston. This was his only career post season appearance. Kile was an All Star 4 times. Kile is the 25th player to be named to both OOTP HOFs. Black Ink: 14 (1) Gray Ink: 129 (82) HOFm: 95 (31) HOFs: 41 (12) Gorilla Composite: 2.4 (0.9) ------------------------------------- If there is one player that I have been tempted to show favoritism towards, more than anyone else, it would have to be fellow OOTP addict Curt Schilling. He was screened the same season that Bob Horner entered this Hall. I thought it would be super cool if they went in together because the absolute best baseball story I have read on these boards was Curt's reminiscence of Spring Training with Mssr Horner. I don't have the post handy, but someone can feel free to post a link to it, here, if they have it. As tempted as I was, I let the process just work itself out. At the age of 61, Curt Schilling joins this HOF. Schilling was selected in the 1994 draft by the Dodgers at the age of 19. In his first 3 seasons he made 74 appearances, 53 of them in relief. In 1998 he became a full time starter. Over the next 4 seasons he put up very good stat geek numbers (npa ERA+ between 127-186 each season, K/W > 3 each season) but was one game below .500 in that stretch. Perhaps the Dodgers being 90 games under .500 had something to do with it. Seeking to join a contender, Schilling left as a Free Agent and joined the Royals in 2002 (yes, this is quite the alternative reality). In 2002 he made his first of 4 ASGs and posted a 16-6 record with an OOTP ERA of 3.47 (npa ERA+ 127). In 233 2/3 IP, he struck out 254 men. After his playing days, Curt Schilling would make the astute public declaration on a gaming message board that "walks suck." In 2002, he walked only 47 for a K/W rate better than 5. The Royals team he joined had Inaugural Class HOFer George Davies as a 37 year-old veteran. It also boasted future HOFers Duke Snider and Jimmy Walsh. Add the newest HOF inductee to that group, and it is no surprise that the Royals won the World Series in 2002, defeating the Brewers 4 games to 2. To get to the WS, the Royals had to knock off the Red Sox in the LCS. In 2003, Curt had his best season to date, at least in the eyes of the writers, as he won 20 games for the first time in his career and also struck out 300 for the first time. The writers thought that was worth a CYA. The Royals lost the WS in 6 games to the Mets. Wait till next year.... 2004 was Schilling's finest season, as he won a 2nd straight CYA, led the Royals to their 3rd straight WS, and helped them win their second title in three years. Schilling won a career high 23 games vs 7 losses. His OOTP ERA of 2.48 was his lowest career mark and the 182 npa ERA+ was his career best. He pitched 261 innings, surrendered just 195 hits and 53 walks (WHIP = 0.95) and struck out 275. George Davies and Jimmy Walsh were still with the team for this title run. For his career, Schilling won 222 games (t-22nd, Matt Kilroy) and lost 179. His OOTP ERA of 3.52 (95th) works out to an excellent HOF npa ERA+ of 131. He struck out 3443 (17th, one fewer than Justin Verlander) batters while walking 911. Schilling appeared in 4 ASGs. He has one career save to his credit. He retired following the 2015 season. In 17 career post season starts, Schilling posted an 8-3 record. Black Ink: 30 (42) Gray Ink: 170 (205) HOFm: 132.3 (171) HOFs: 42 (46) Gorilla Composite: 3.2 (4.0) Like Mussina, Schilling should be inducted into the RL HOF on the basis of the model in work for this HOF when applied to RL records. Last edited by VanillaGorilla; 03-10-2013 at 01:08 PM.