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VanillaGorilla · 11-10-2012, 03:48 PM

All three entries came from the leader boards. Two are first ballot entries. Two are floor breakers. The composite average falls below 5.0 with this class.

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Paul O'Neill is both a first ballot entrant and a floor breaker, the first such induction.

O'Neill was a second rd draft pick by the Pirates in 1958. His rookie season he batted .291 with 29 HRs to win Rookie of the Year honors. Retiring after the 1976 season, he collected 2151 hits and 360 HRs and posted a slash line of 279/355/461 for a npa OPS+ of 137.

He hit 40 HRs in both 1966 and 1967, leading the league in slg% in 1966 with a .581 mark for a career best npa OPS+ of 168.

A 4 time All-Star, O'Neill won 5 GGs in RF. He appeared in post seasons, but did not win a WS.

O'Neill is a RL favorite of mine. He is a player who meant more to the game and his teams than plain numbers. If I had a vote, I would have been among the 2.2% that put his name on the ballot. I am glad to see him in here.

O'Neill was the highest placing eligible player on either the VORP or WAR lists. He is inducted on that basis.

Black Ink: 5 (4)
Gray Ink: 72 (45)
HOFm: 43.5 (71)
HOFs: 34 (37)

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Jose Canseco also gets in on his first year of eligibility. His numbers were short of getting him in on First Ballot screening or the standard standard, but when the selection process went to the leader boards, his 557 HRs placed him sixth on the All-Time list, so he gets in via that route.

The ninth overall pick by the Pirates in 1957, he was team mates with fellow classmate Paul o'Neill through the 1966 season before being traded to the Cubs for Arky Vaughan.

Canseco collected 2034 hits and 1501 RBI before retiring in 1976. He was ROY in 1958, giving the Pirates consecutive winners of that award (O'Neill), when he hit .280 with 42 HRs and 122 RBI while posting a npa OPS+ of 137.

His career npa OPS+ was the same 137, from a slash line of 255/306/502...the same npa OPS+ of fellow teammate/classmate O'Neill.

His post season output was but a 1 for 11 in the LCS for the Cubs.

A 7 time All Star, Canseco won 4 GGs in his career. Using the standard standard of entry for this Hall, Canseco would be inducted IRL.

Black: 20 (15)
Gray: 158 (93)
HOFm: 155.5 (103)
HOFs: 40 (39)

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72 years after retirement, Carlos Guillen gets the call from the Hall. The longest wait of any hitter. He gave his induction speech at the age of 108.

Guillen was a second rd draft pick in 1894, and he retired following the 1910 season.

He won 9 Gold Gloves at SS and collected 1973 hits in the Dead Ball Era.

In 1896 his Chicago White Sox team which included fellow HOFers Dave Parker and John Romano won the WS.

Guillen had a career npa OPS+ of 108.

Guillen was the highest ranked eligible player on the WAR list, tied with a player on the VORP list. The Saberheads won the argument and got the fine fielding Guillen into the HOF over the big hitting defensive liability on the VORP list.

Guillen is a floor breaker.

Black: 3
Gray: 102
HOFm: 59
HOFs: 27

11-10-2012, 03:48 PM	#76
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371 Blog Entries: 2	Class of 1982: O'Neill, Canseco, Guillen All three entries came from the leader boards. Two are first ballot entries. Two are floor breakers. The composite average falls below 5.0 with this class. ------------- Paul O'Neill is both a first ballot entrant and a floor breaker, the first such induction. O'Neill was a second rd draft pick by the Pirates in 1958. His rookie season he batted .291 with 29 HRs to win Rookie of the Year honors. Retiring after the 1976 season, he collected 2151 hits and 360 HRs and posted a slash line of 279/355/461 for a npa OPS+ of 137. He hit 40 HRs in both 1966 and 1967, leading the league in slg% in 1966 with a .581 mark for a career best npa OPS+ of 168. A 4 time All-Star, O'Neill won 5 GGs in RF. He appeared in post seasons, but did not win a WS. O'Neill is a RL favorite of mine. He is a player who meant more to the game and his teams than plain numbers. If I had a vote, I would have been among the 2.2% that put his name on the ballot. I am glad to see him in here. O'Neill was the highest placing eligible player on either the VORP or WAR lists. He is inducted on that basis. Black Ink: 5 (4) Gray Ink: 72 (45) HOFm: 43.5 (71) HOFs: 34 (37) ----------- Jose Canseco also gets in on his first year of eligibility. His numbers were short of getting him in on First Ballot screening or the standard standard, but when the selection process went to the leader boards, his 557 HRs placed him sixth on the All-Time list, so he gets in via that route. The ninth overall pick by the Pirates in 1957, he was team mates with fellow classmate Paul o'Neill through the 1966 season before being traded to the Cubs for Arky Vaughan. Canseco collected 2034 hits and 1501 RBI before retiring in 1976. He was ROY in 1958, giving the Pirates consecutive winners of that award (O'Neill), when he hit .280 with 42 HRs and 122 RBI while posting a npa OPS+ of 137. His career npa OPS+ was the same 137, from a slash line of 255/306/502...the same npa OPS+ of fellow teammate/classmate O'Neill. His post season output was but a 1 for 11 in the LCS for the Cubs. A 7 time All Star, Canseco won 4 GGs in his career. Using the standard standard of entry for this Hall, Canseco would be inducted IRL. Black: 20 (15) Gray: 158 (93) HOFm: 155.5 (103) HOFs: 40 (39) -------------------------- 72 years after retirement, Carlos Guillen gets the call from the Hall. The longest wait of any hitter. He gave his induction speech at the age of 108. Guillen was a second rd draft pick in 1894, and he retired following the 1910 season. He won 9 Gold Gloves at SS and collected 1973 hits in the Dead Ball Era. In 1896 his Chicago White Sox team which included fellow HOFers Dave Parker and John Romano won the WS. Guillen had a career npa OPS+ of 108. Guillen was the highest ranked eligible player on the WAR list, tied with a player on the VORP list. The Saberheads won the argument and got the fine fielding Guillen into the HOF over the big hitting defensive liability on the VORP list. Guillen is a floor breaker. Black: 3 Gray: 102 HOFm: 59 HOFs: 27 Last edited by VanillaGorilla; 11-14-2012 at 11:59 PM.