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Anyone · 07-26-2019, 03:29 AM

They need separate ratings for running speed and the likelihood of a stolen base attempt. Simple as that.

For historical players, stats for the pure speed rating were available before more advanced stats existed, Bill James writing in the 1980's had "speed scores." I'm not sure exactly what was in them, but something like stolen bases, stolen base percentage, triples as a percentage of hits (or relative to doubles)-- which by default speed is used for already, % of AB's (or of outs) that result in grounding into a DP, Runs scores as a percentage of times on base not counting HR's.... Also, how far back does percentage of times taking an extra base go?

Any of those alone isn't a perfect indicator or as good as what we have now. Each has distortions. But put them together and the distortions will tend to cancel each other out.and give a better approximation of a players' raw speed than what we have in the game now.

07-26-2019, 03:29 AM	#43
Anyone Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 405	They need separate ratings for running speed and the likelihood of a stolen base attempt. Simple as that. For historical players, stats for the pure speed rating were available before more advanced stats existed, Bill James writing in the 1980's had "speed scores." I'm not sure exactly what was in them, but something like stolen bases, stolen base percentage, triples as a percentage of hits (or relative to doubles)-- which by default speed is used for already, % of AB's (or of outs) that result in grounding into a DP, Runs scores as a percentage of times on base not counting HR's.... Also, how far back does percentage of times taking an extra base go? Any of those alone isn't a perfect indicator or as good as what we have now. Each has distortions. But put them together and the distortions will tend to cancel each other out.and give a better approximation of a players' raw speed than what we have in the game now.