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KBLover · 10-31-2019, 02:18 AM

Actually I'm wondering about this.

I have this pitcher, Alvare Casteles:

And his stuff is a straight up 255.

But his K/9 is only "above average", especially by modern standards. I mean 10 K/9 isn't even top 10 in starters this past season.

At first, I thought maybe my league just needs more K's (and maybe it does, though hitters are already striking out a LOT, even by modern standards).

Castelles has six pitches. His 70 Forkball and 80 Circle Change aren't showing.

But then the Cardinals have this guy, Marc Tatum:

He also has a straight up 255 stuff.

And he's posting Gerrit Cole/Max Scherzer type numbers in K/9.

Am I just seeing the "flavor" that No One was talking about?

Neither pitcher has a knuckleball, but Casteles has far lower BABIP allowed consistently, while Tatum has a splitter. Is that splitter helping Tatum keep a higher K/9 while Casteles' profile is more "extreme deceptive" and he's better at inducing bad contact when he doesn't miss bats completely?

10-31-2019, 02:18 AM	#17
KBLover All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 580	Actually I'm wondering about this. I have this pitcher, Alvare Casteles: And his stuff is a straight up 255. But his K/9 is only "above average", especially by modern standards. I mean 10 K/9 isn't even top 10 in starters this past season. At first, I thought maybe my league just needs more K's (and maybe it does, though hitters are already striking out a LOT, even by modern standards). Castelles has six pitches. His 70 Forkball and 80 Circle Change aren't showing. But then the Cardinals have this guy, Marc Tatum: He also has a straight up 255 stuff. And he's posting Gerrit Cole/Max Scherzer type numbers in K/9. Am I just seeing the "flavor" that No One was talking about? Neither pitcher has a knuckleball, but Casteles has far lower BABIP allowed consistently, while Tatum has a splitter. Is that splitter helping Tatum keep a higher K/9 while Casteles' profile is more "extreme deceptive" and he's better at inducing bad contact when he doesn't miss bats completely?