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Old 01-29-2018, 04:17 PM   #172
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There are numerous instances throughout boxing history of manufactured fighters building up terrific-looking records only to be exposed as fakes. Clark was certainly one of them and the team appears to have over-valued him in their assessment. I do think that even if you could rate every single fighter in a game perfectly so they would perform exactly as they did in real life, you'd eventually get bored with simply replaying history. There has to be a chance that even a really good B-Level fighter will lose to a C-Level fighter or even a D-Level fighter. Guys have off nights and plenty of pre-TV fighters climbed through the ropes in less than top form. Even Ali probably lost to Doug Jones and under different circumstances might have lost to Henry Cooper first time around. Some have argued that Joe Louis should have lost to Tommy Farr and Jersey Joe Walcott.

Enjoy your perspective on ratings, Prof.

Cap

Thanks for the kind words, Cap!


For me it's not about replicating what actually happened. Remember Dr. Julian Compton's Data Boxing (circa 1978)? He had an aspect in his game that ensured that Liston knocked out Patterson in the first round. And it actually worked!


I also found Compton's game as entertaining as a root canal when compared to Title Bout.


I hope you're not thinking I don't want "play-in-the-joints". And I've never advocated "starting from scratch" and rerating all the boxers. I just want something that's believable in terms of results.


So if LaMar Clark manages to knockout young Cassius Clay, I can accept that. That's the fun of the game. If he does it consistently, there's trouble in River City!


Generally, I'm content with the TBCB3 ratings. Yet there are times where I believe they just threw a rating together for the sake of expediency.


So now we have thousands of ratings. Some are based on thoughtful analysis and too many on just getting something out the door.


I remember the late Danny Greyhawke once observing that when it comes to ratings for TBCB sometimes more is actually less.


In the end, I just want quality over quantity.

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