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VanillaGorilla · 02-07-2013, 11:12 AM

The Babe Ruth watch is over. He is inducted into the HOF. This is an entry of much interest, but for reasons that are quite unexpected.

At the age of 22, Ruth was taken in the Inaugural Draft for the season in which he would turn 23. He was selected in the ELEVENTH round...that's the 244th over all pick....by the Cleveland Indians.

Did the AI have a heads-up that Ruth was not be so Ruthian?

Anyone who enters the HOF had a great career. I don't care who you might think is the least deserving player in the HOF, that player had a great career, period.

Ruth had an injury plagued career. 12 times he had injuries/setbacks of at least 4 weeks. Throw in a couple "viral infection"s and a "dehydration" for uncanny realism, and you have a guy that is in the HOF, but is also a guy that some writers (largely large asthmatics) say doesn't belong.

Ruth hit 499 career HRs before retiring in 1989. Falling one short of the magic 500 number, he was NOT a software inductee.

These injuries he suffered throughout his career seem to have a cumulative carry over from season to season that is not negated by the recalc. Cool!

Ruth was a 5 time AS, won 2 GGs, and an MVP. Ruth also had a career batting average of .226, the lowest in the Hall for a hitter, and probably will remain that way through the Class of 2085.

In 1980, playing in Philadelphia's Veterans Stadium, Ruth hit a career high .275. He also hit a career high 62 HRs, a career high 133 RBI, a career high 116 runs scored and a slash line, which all contained figures were career highs, of 275/380/718 (npa OPS+ 194). He did all of this in just 126 games. That was enough time to win the MVP.

Putting this season in RL perspective, in 1980 Mike Schmidt had perhaps his finest season, also playing in The Vet. He hit .286 with 48 HRs in 150 games. Ruth's season here, in this 1980 Philly environment, is nothing short of amazing.

Similar to Dutch Zwilling, Ruth only had 2 seasons in which he played 150 games. However, he led the league in HRs 5 times. His career slash line of 226/341/533 is good for a npa OPS+ of 143. This number is very Hall-worthy, but it is not a number of Ruthian proportions.

Ruth ranks 15th on the All-Time HR list at the time of his induction. His 1246 RBI place him 48th. His 1330 hits doesn't make the top 100.

Ruth won a WS in 1985 with the Phillies. HOF Alex Serrano was the closer on that team.

He retired following the 1988 season.

Ruth gets in by virtue of his Black Ink number being above the Hall average.

Black Ink: 34 (171)
Gray Ink: 130 (414)
HOFm: 130 (464)
HOFs: 36 (113)

Gorilla Composite: 3.8 (14.6)

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Al Rosen becomes the 4th player to be entered in this HOF and the previous HOF.

Al Rosen was taken by the Angels with the third overall pick in the 1993 draft. In 1993, his 20 year career came to end. He had cracked 2558 hits (15th), 586 HRs (8th), drove in 1743 RBI (9th), and scored 1648 runs (4th) before hanging up the spikes.

In 1999, he a career best, and league leading 68 HRs and drove in a career best 183 runs. Slashing 325/404/728 for a npa OPS+ of 184, Rosen won the League MVP.

In 1997 he played in 162 games, hit .305 with 49 HRs and led the Angels to WS victory.

For his career, Rosen slashed 269/369/507 (npa OPS+ 132). Along with his 1999 MVP, Rosen was an 8 time AS, and won 3 GGs at 3B.

Rosen's HOFm and HOFs numbers both exceed the Hall averages.

Black Ink: 14 (23)
Gray Ink: 115 (97)
HOFm: 188 (82)
HOFs: 64 (28)

Gorilla Composite: 3.9 (2.6)

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When the scouts miss, they can all miss at once (this will not be a new feature in OOTP 14...it's already here!).

A 22 year-old Fred McGriff was taken in the 23rd rd of the inaugural draft...number 533, overall. The ChiSox got a supreme steal, here.

Playing from the inaugural 1973 season through 1990, the Crime Dog ripped 2519 hits (17th), 539 HRs (13th, one more than Yaz), drove in 1594 (11th), and scored 1422 (20th).

An 11 time All-Star, this former 23rd rd pick won 3 MVPs in his career. He also picked up a GG along the way.

However, the White Sox didn't seem to realize what they had, as they traded McGriff to the Mets prior to the 1974 season for John Cangelosi. Winning a WS with the Mets in 1975, a still developing McGriff slashed 296/366/396 in 99 games. He was traded in 1976 to the Cardinals for Jimmy Sheckard.

McGriff signed a couple one year deals with St Louis. After 3 straight 40+ Hr seasons, he went back to the Mets for a six year contract, at age 29. As a second go around Met, he won the MVP in 1981 and 1983, again hitting 40+ HRs each time and posting a npa OPS+ above 170 each of those seasons.

He left the Mets for a 2 year deal in Houston following the 1985 season. In 1986, he won his 3rd MVP as he hit 43 HRs and posted a npa OPS+ of 173 in the Astrodome. His career single season best HR total was 46. He hit 40+ HR 9 times.

McGriff had a career slash line of 298/382/532 for a npa OPS+ of 155.

McGriff did not get in on his First Ballot screening. However, at the time of his entry, his numbers in all four categories are above the current Hall averages, which would have made him a First balloter had this been his first year of eligibility.

Black Ink: 40 (9)
Gray Ink: 241 (105)
HOFm: 223.5 (100)
HOFs: 53 (48)

Gorilla Composite: 5.7 (2.7)

02-07-2013, 11:12 AM	#19
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371 Blog Entries: 2	Class of 2017 (1945), Part 2 : Ruth, Rosen, McGriff The Babe Ruth watch is over. He is inducted into the HOF. This is an entry of much interest, but for reasons that are quite unexpected. At the age of 22, Ruth was taken in the Inaugural Draft for the season in which he would turn 23. He was selected in the ELEVENTH round...that's the 244th over all pick....by the Cleveland Indians. Did the AI have a heads-up that Ruth was not be so Ruthian? Anyone who enters the HOF had a great career. I don't care who you might think is the least deserving player in the HOF, that player had a great career, period. Ruth had an injury plagued career. 12 times he had injuries/setbacks of at least 4 weeks. Throw in a couple "viral infection"s and a "dehydration" for uncanny realism, and you have a guy that is in the HOF, but is also a guy that some writers (largely large asthmatics) say doesn't belong. Ruth hit 499 career HRs before retiring in 1989. Falling one short of the magic 500 number, he was NOT a software inductee. These injuries he suffered throughout his career seem to have a cumulative carry over from season to season that is not negated by the recalc. Cool! Ruth was a 5 time AS, won 2 GGs, and an MVP. Ruth also had a career batting average of .226, the lowest in the Hall for a hitter, and probably will remain that way through the Class of 2085. In 1980, playing in Philadelphia's Veterans Stadium, Ruth hit a career high .275. He also hit a career high 62 HRs, a career high 133 RBI, a career high 116 runs scored and a slash line, which all contained figures were career highs, of 275/380/718 (npa OPS+ 194). He did all of this in just 126 games. That was enough time to win the MVP. Putting this season in RL perspective, in 1980 Mike Schmidt had perhaps his finest season, also playing in The Vet. He hit .286 with 48 HRs in 150 games. Ruth's season here, in this 1980 Philly environment, is nothing short of amazing. Similar to Dutch Zwilling, Ruth only had 2 seasons in which he played 150 games. However, he led the league in HRs 5 times. His career slash line of 226/341/533 is good for a npa OPS+ of 143. This number is very Hall-worthy, but it is not a number of Ruthian proportions. Ruth ranks 15th on the All-Time HR list at the time of his induction. His 1246 RBI place him 48th. His 1330 hits doesn't make the top 100. Ruth won a WS in 1985 with the Phillies. HOF Alex Serrano was the closer on that team. He retired following the 1988 season. Ruth gets in by virtue of his Black Ink number being above the Hall average. Black Ink: 34 (171) Gray Ink: 130 (414) HOFm: 130 (464) HOFs: 36 (113) Gorilla Composite: 3.8 (14.6) ------------------------ Al Rosen becomes the 4th player to be entered in this HOF and the previous HOF. Al Rosen was taken by the Angels with the third overall pick in the 1993 draft. In 1993, his 20 year career came to end. He had cracked 2558 hits (15th), 586 HRs (8th), drove in 1743 RBI (9th), and scored 1648 runs (4th) before hanging up the spikes. In 1999, he a career best, and league leading 68 HRs and drove in a career best 183 runs. Slashing 325/404/728 for a npa OPS+ of 184, Rosen won the League MVP. In 1997 he played in 162 games, hit .305 with 49 HRs and led the Angels to WS victory. For his career, Rosen slashed 269/369/507 (npa OPS+ 132). Along with his 1999 MVP, Rosen was an 8 time AS, and won 3 GGs at 3B. Rosen's HOFm and HOFs numbers both exceed the Hall averages. Black Ink: 14 (23) Gray Ink: 115 (97) HOFm: 188 (82) HOFs: 64 (28) Gorilla Composite: 3.9 (2.6) --------------------------- When the scouts miss, they can all miss at once (this will not be a new feature in OOTP 14...it's already here!). A 22 year-old Fred McGriff was taken in the 23rd rd of the inaugural draft...number 533, overall. The ChiSox got a supreme steal, here. Playing from the inaugural 1973 season through 1990, the Crime Dog ripped 2519 hits (17th), 539 HRs (13th, one more than Yaz), drove in 1594 (11th), and scored 1422 (20th). An 11 time All-Star, this former 23rd rd pick won 3 MVPs in his career. He also picked up a GG along the way. However, the White Sox didn't seem to realize what they had, as they traded McGriff to the Mets prior to the 1974 season for John Cangelosi. Winning a WS with the Mets in 1975, a still developing McGriff slashed 296/366/396 in 99 games. He was traded in 1976 to the Cardinals for Jimmy Sheckard. McGriff signed a couple one year deals with St Louis. After 3 straight 40+ Hr seasons, he went back to the Mets for a six year contract, at age 29. As a second go around Met, he won the MVP in 1981 and 1983, again hitting 40+ HRs each time and posting a npa OPS+ above 170 each of those seasons. He left the Mets for a 2 year deal in Houston following the 1985 season. In 1986, he won his 3rd MVP as he hit 43 HRs and posted a npa OPS+ of 173 in the Astrodome. His career single season best HR total was 46. He hit 40+ HR 9 times. McGriff had a career slash line of 298/382/532 for a npa OPS+ of 155. McGriff did not get in on his First Ballot screening. However, at the time of his entry, his numbers in all four categories are above the current Hall averages, which would have made him a First balloter had this been his first year of eligibility. Black Ink: 40 (9) Gray Ink: 241 (105) HOFm: 223.5 (100) HOFs: 53 (48) Gorilla Composite: 5.7 (2.7) Last edited by VanillaGorilla; 02-07-2013 at 11:14 AM.