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Originally Posted by pens66
They are not really occuring.
Just made a funny little experiment: 1982-83 season; I adjusted Gretzky's core strengths playmaking, stickhandling, offensive read and getting open (all to 40).
Then I played the season twice, once with Gretzky giving a pass/shot tendency of 18 (thus making him a pass first guy) and once giving him a 3 in that category (making him a shoot first guy).
As a playmaker Gretzky scored 77 goals and piled up 71 assists.
As a goalscorer he scored 223 goals and collected 61 assists.
Now you tell me if, in the game, elite playmakers can make players around them better or goal scorers drive up the numbers of their linemates.
Btw: Glenn Anderson had 123 assists in Gretzky's goal scoring circus...
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I'm not disagreeing with your original point (Playmakers not elevating linemates)... I actually think you are 100% correct.
However I think the flaw in your test is the getting open stat since I'm pretty sure that's related to goal scoring, so you may not be getting the effect you want (essentially Wayne is always wide open with an opportnunity to score... why would he pass?)