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Old 09-25-2012, 05:46 PM   #18
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Class of 1946, Hitters, Part 1 - Ramirez, Magee, Roth

With the newly instituted 1 year waiting period, all of the hitters on the spreadsheet are those that did not make it into the Hall in 1945 on 1945 standards, since no new retirees have been added.

What is represented in this class is exactly what I am looking for from the Hall dynamic...as other players get in for whatever reason the voters/selection committee looks at those not in with an eye to who is in. The discussion ensues, "Well, if that player is in, then you have to put in this one." Wheter this is the way Hall selections should be, or not, it is, to an extent, how they are.

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The second active player to get in, Hanley Ramirez is very close to what would be considered an average HOFer by today's standards, but a little bit better.

From 1895 to 1904 he batted .279 and collected 2853 base hits. He stole 816 bases which places him 12th on the all time list.

He won an MVP and appeared in 3 AS games in his first 4 seasons (before they went on hiatus) and appeared in 3 WS, though he didn't win one.

Black Ink 19
Gray Ink 201
HOF Monitor 131
HOF STandards 148

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Sherry Magee is a prime example of shifting Hall Standards. In 1945 he could not reach the Hall on the lowered Veteran Standard. In 1946 he does not need the Veteran Standard as his Black Ink total is now better than the Hall average.

From 1894 to 1913 he batted .299 in collecting 2467 hits. That he just missed .300 and 2500 hits kept him out from the last class.

No matter, he is in now. And surely deserving. He won 3 MVPs, 9 GGs, and batted .333 in 10 WS games winning one title in 2 attempts.

His 882 SBs places him 9th on the All Time list. He won 2 batting titles, one in 1897 when he posted a career high .390.

Black 54 (35)
Gray 216 (210)
HOFm 107.5 (60)
HOFs 36 (35)

While my method is merely an attempt to simulate the real Hall, if my method was used Magee would be in based on his Black and Gray Ink numbers being above the current RL Hall average.

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Braggo Roth is even more representative of today's average HOFer than Ramirez, but a little bit worse than the average. The average HOFer (not that there is actually such an individual) would be somewhere between these two.

Roth also gets in on the Veteran Standard.

From 1895 through 1913 he played in 1320 games and collected 1450 hits. Relegated as a role player/replacement following the 1900 season, it are his first 6 years that make him Hall worthy.

In 1896 he collected 213 hits, 101 RBI, and scored 104 times in a 132 game season, winning the MVP. He scored 105 runs the previous season in 132 game schedule, also.

He stole over 100 bases 3 times in his career and batted .314 for his career. He went to the All Star game his first 6 seasons. There was no AS game after that.

Black 33
Gray 109
HOFm 107.5
HOFs 36
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