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JCWeb · 07-13-2006, 12:28 AM

Division Profile

Total Boxers: 62
Real Life: 27
Tomato Can: 35

Real Life by Career Stage:
Beginning: 4 (1 New in 1912)
Pre: 5
Prime: 12
Post: 5
End: 1

Rated: 21
800+: 3
500+: 10
200+: 19

Jan 1912 Rankings (Perf Pts and changes from 1911 in parens)

Champ: Harry Harris 49-9-2 (31) (840) (+2)
1. Johnny Coulon 27-3-1 (14) (898) (NC)
2. Phila. Pal Moore 18-1-2 (9) (897) (-2)
3. Kid Murphy 25-10-1 (17) (777) (+3)
4. Frankie Conley 22-6 (13) (743) (+1)
5. Biz Mackey 32-11-3 (12) (663) (-1)
6. Tommy Feltz 30-16-1 (18) (649) (+3)
7. Hugh McGovern 28-11-1 (13) (645) (-4)
8. Al Delmont 30-11-1 (14) (531) (-1)
9. Monte Attell 20-11-2 (12) (514) (+4)
10. Frankie Neil 29-17-1 (19) (476) (+1)

Comments: All USA fighters in the top 10, something that happened in the division a few years back as well. Everyone at Prime except Harris, who is at End career stage, and Feltz, Hugh McGovern and Neil who are at Post (H McGovern hitting retirement year in 1912). Harris cannot be expected to hold the title much longer. Coulon is the likely successor, scoring two wins after losing the WBA belt to Moore late in 1910, but he could only manage a draw with Monte Attell, hardly an encouraging sign. Moore has wins over Burns and Bowker after losing the WBA belt. Murphy had a bright future until he lost the title to Harris. Conley regaining the NABF belt and is itching for a WBA title shot. Mackey was 2-2 for the year and dropped a bit as a result. Feltz has won three in a row versus Forbes, Neil and Kid Beebe. Hugh McGovern had a bad year, recovering with a TKO 6 over Stanley. Delmont was 3-1 in 1911 but a loss to Beebe caused his stock to go down. Attell is back in contention after a UD 10 win over Burns and the draw with Coulon.

Other Notables: Lying just outside the Top 10 at #11 is Frenchman Charles Ledoux, who has compiled an impressive 16-1 (14) record thus far, including wins over Young Oliver and "Louisiana" Biderberg, the only loss being a MD 10 to Phil McGovern. Frankie Burns had a sophomore slump, dropping seven spots to #15 after successive losses to Delmont, Pal Moore and Monte Attell. CBU champ Joe Bowker also fell seven spots, to #16, suffering defeats at the hands of Coulon, P Moore and Delmont. His record is now 29-16-4 (15), with 374 pp. Right behind him is Digger Stanley, the EBU and GBU champ, who is mired in a five-bout losing streak, dropping bouts to Bowker, Mackey and Hugh McGovern in 1911, and his record stands at 24-18-2 (8) with 350 pp.

Prospects: Eddie Campi at 11-0 (10) and Kid Williams at 9-0 (7) have been impressive, all wins at the expense of tomato can fighters. Young Oliver at 12-1 (10) started out well but ran into trouble when he was matched with Ledoux. Jack Kid Wolfe has started out at 3-0 (1).

Retirements: Terry McGovern, who fought as a BW for his first 30 bouts, hung it up -- see record under FW report posted above. As a BW, he held the USBA title for four years but never got above #2 in the rankings.

Looking Ahead: Only one newcomer (Pete Herman) enters the ranks in 1912. Look for Harris to call it quits after one last title defense. Ledoux is ready to challenge for Stanley's EBU belt. Expect Coulon to take over Harris' spot as the top fighter in the division. Pal Moore, Kid Murphy, and even Frankie Conley could challenge for the top spot as well.

07-13-2006, 12:28 AM	#89
JCWeb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,042	1911-Bantamweights Part II Division Profile Total Boxers: 62 Real Life: 27 Tomato Can: 35 Real Life by Career Stage: Beginning: 4 (1 New in 1912) Pre: 5 Prime: 12 Post: 5 End: 1 Rated: 21 800+: 3 500+: 10 200+: 19 Jan 1912 Rankings (Perf Pts and changes from 1911 in parens) Champ: Harry Harris 49-9-2 (31) (840) (+2) 1. Johnny Coulon 27-3-1 (14) (898) (NC) 2. Phila. Pal Moore 18-1-2 (9) (897) (-2) 3. Kid Murphy 25-10-1 (17) (777) (+3) 4. Frankie Conley 22-6 (13) (743) (+1) 5. Biz Mackey 32-11-3 (12) (663) (-1) 6. Tommy Feltz 30-16-1 (18) (649) (+3) 7. Hugh McGovern 28-11-1 (13) (645) (-4) 8. Al Delmont 30-11-1 (14) (531) (-1) 9. Monte Attell 20-11-2 (12) (514) (+4) 10. Frankie Neil 29-17-1 (19) (476) (+1) Comments: All USA fighters in the top 10, something that happened in the division a few years back as well. Everyone at Prime except Harris, who is at End career stage, and Feltz, Hugh McGovern and Neil who are at Post (H McGovern hitting retirement year in 1912). Harris cannot be expected to hold the title much longer. Coulon is the likely successor, scoring two wins after losing the WBA belt to Moore late in 1910, but he could only manage a draw with Monte Attell, hardly an encouraging sign. Moore has wins over Burns and Bowker after losing the WBA belt. Murphy had a bright future until he lost the title to Harris. Conley regaining the NABF belt and is itching for a WBA title shot. Mackey was 2-2 for the year and dropped a bit as a result. Feltz has won three in a row versus Forbes, Neil and Kid Beebe. Hugh McGovern had a bad year, recovering with a TKO 6 over Stanley. Delmont was 3-1 in 1911 but a loss to Beebe caused his stock to go down. Attell is back in contention after a UD 10 win over Burns and the draw with Coulon. Other Notables: Lying just outside the Top 10 at #11 is Frenchman Charles Ledoux, who has compiled an impressive 16-1 (14) record thus far, including wins over Young Oliver and "Louisiana" Biderberg, the only loss being a MD 10 to Phil McGovern. Frankie Burns had a sophomore slump, dropping seven spots to #15 after successive losses to Delmont, Pal Moore and Monte Attell. CBU champ Joe Bowker also fell seven spots, to #16, suffering defeats at the hands of Coulon, P Moore and Delmont. His record is now 29-16-4 (15), with 374 pp. Right behind him is Digger Stanley, the EBU and GBU champ, who is mired in a five-bout losing streak, dropping bouts to Bowker, Mackey and Hugh McGovern in 1911, and his record stands at 24-18-2 (8) with 350 pp. Prospects: Eddie Campi at 11-0 (10) and Kid Williams at 9-0 (7) have been impressive, all wins at the expense of tomato can fighters. Young Oliver at 12-1 (10) started out well but ran into trouble when he was matched with Ledoux. Jack Kid Wolfe has started out at 3-0 (1). Retirements: Terry McGovern, who fought as a BW for his first 30 bouts, hung it up -- see record under FW report posted above. As a BW, he held the USBA title for four years but never got above #2 in the rankings. Looking Ahead: Only one newcomer (Pete Herman) enters the ranks in 1912. Look for Harris to call it quits after one last title defense. Ledoux is ready to challenge for Stanley's EBU belt. Expect Coulon to take over Harris' spot as the top fighter in the division. Pal Moore, Kid Murphy, and even Frankie Conley could challenge for the top spot as well.