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JCWeb · 07-12-2006, 01:57 PM

Division Profile

Total Boxers: 107
Real Life: 54
Tomato Can: 53

RL Boxers by Career Stage
Beginner: 8 (3 New in 1912)
Pre: 11
Prime: 25
Post: 7
End: 3

Jan 1912 Rankings (Perf Pts and Changes from 1911 in Parens):

Champ: Jack Blackburn 43-5-1 (17) (1267) (+2)
1. Freddie Welsh 22-5-1 (14) (1093) (+3)
2. Battling Nelson 54-11 (28) (1091) (-1)
3. Jem Driscoll 41-7 (29) (1075) (-3)
4. Young Erne 35-14-3 (14) (983) (+3)
5. Lockport Jimmy Duffy 19-1 (11) (894) (NC)
6. Matty Baldwin 28-11-2 (18) (754) (+2)
7. Kid Black 29-14-2 (15) (670) (+13)
8. Charley White 19-4 (8) (669) (+3)
9. Fighting D*ck Hyland 24-12-3 (16) (639) (NC)
10. Harlem Tommy Murphy 24-11-1 (10) (625) (+2)

Comments: Everyone listed is at Prime except for Nelson who has reached Post. Blackburn once again rules the roost, riding a 9-bout win streak to the top. Welsh has won 5 of his last 6, stumbling to Driscoll. Nelson is still competitive, but may be less effective given the change in career status. Driscoll bounced back from the loss to Young Erne with wins over Welsh and Arthur Douglas. Young Erne moved to the elite group with his rather lucky win over Driscoll, questionable whether or not he will stay there. Duffy made a great 18-0 start but has yet to prove he can consistently beat the top guys in this highly competitive division. Bunker Hill Bearcat Baldwin won three of four in 1911 (over Donahue, Cooke and Wolgast) and remains a threat. Kid Black made a huge leap forward when he captured the USBA belt. Charley White is back in the Top 10 after a win versus Cooke. Hyland was 2-2 on the year to stay in contention. Murphy downed the aging Cooke to take a top 10 spot.

Other Notables: Long time contender Jewey Cooke, now 59-16-1 (28), has lost five bouts in a row to fall from #3 to #11 and now at Post-Prime career stage, may not return to the top group. Young Otto tumbled from #6 to #12 and stands at 25-9-2 (12) after setback losses to Wolgast and Knockout Brown. Knockout Brown checks in at #15 with a 17-4-1 (12) record, having a 6-bout win streak snapped by Ray Bronson, who is #14. Willie Ritchie also fell out of the top 10 from #10 to #17, winning only one of four bouts in 1911. Eddie Wallace won 6 in a row but then loss to Donahue to wind up the year at #19 at 24-10 (9).

Prospects: Aussie Herb McCoy is 14-0 (8) which includes two wins versus real-life fighters, Willie Beecher (TKO 9) and Terry Brooks (SD 10). Phil Cross was 12-0 before losing his first to Young Tommy Coleman. Alf Goodwin was fed a steady diet of TCs to build his 9-0 (6) mark. Ditto for Mexican Joe Rivers, also 9-0 (6). Brit Phil Bloom is 8-0 (4). Joe Shugrue was off to a 8-0 start before losing to Sam Robideaux. Robideau is 6-1 (1), his only loss to Canadian Gilbert Gallant, who remains unbeaten at 6-0 (1). All-time great Benny Leonard is off to a 3-0 (1) start, already having whipped Bobby Waugh. Rocky Kansas is 1-0 (1).

Retirements: Tim Callahan and Kid Fredericks hung up the gloves in 1911. Their career stats:

Callahan (USA) 1896-1911 37-26-4 (14) USBA Champ highest rank: 3
Fredericks (USA) 1899-1911 24-23-1 (17) NABF Champ highest rank: 6

Jimmy Britt, Frank Erne, and Art Simms have all reached the End career stage and will likely be the next LWs to leave the scene.

Looking Ahead: Not much in the way of new talent entering the divison, only three newcomers in 1912: Richie Mitchell and Joe Welling head the list. Top of the charts may be clogged up as few fighters are aging and it's tough for newcomers to break through. Look for Welsh to challenge Blackburn for the WBA belt. It will take a few years for the really good prospects like Leonard and Kansas to develop.

07-12-2006, 01:57 PM	#85
JCWeb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,042	1911-Lightweights Part II Division Profile Total Boxers: 107 Real Life: 54 Tomato Can: 53 RL Boxers by Career Stage Beginner: 8 (3 New in 1912) Pre: 11 Prime: 25 Post: 7 End: 3 Jan 1912 Rankings (Perf Pts and Changes from 1911 in Parens): Champ: Jack Blackburn 43-5-1 (17) (1267) (+2) 1. Freddie Welsh 22-5-1 (14) (1093) (+3) 2. Battling Nelson 54-11 (28) (1091) (-1) 3. Jem Driscoll 41-7 (29) (1075) (-3) 4. Young Erne 35-14-3 (14) (983) (+3) 5. Lockport Jimmy Duffy 19-1 (11) (894) (NC) 6. Matty Baldwin 28-11-2 (18) (754) (+2) 7. Kid Black 29-14-2 (15) (670) (+13) 8. Charley White 19-4 (8) (669) (+3) 9. Fighting D*ck Hyland 24-12-3 (16) (639) (NC) 10. Harlem Tommy Murphy 24-11-1 (10) (625) (+2) Comments: Everyone listed is at Prime except for Nelson who has reached Post. Blackburn once again rules the roost, riding a 9-bout win streak to the top. Welsh has won 5 of his last 6, stumbling to Driscoll. Nelson is still competitive, but may be less effective given the change in career status. Driscoll bounced back from the loss to Young Erne with wins over Welsh and Arthur Douglas. Young Erne moved to the elite group with his rather lucky win over Driscoll, questionable whether or not he will stay there. Duffy made a great 18-0 start but has yet to prove he can consistently beat the top guys in this highly competitive division. Bunker Hill Bearcat Baldwin won three of four in 1911 (over Donahue, Cooke and Wolgast) and remains a threat. Kid Black made a huge leap forward when he captured the USBA belt. Charley White is back in the Top 10 after a win versus Cooke. Hyland was 2-2 on the year to stay in contention. Murphy downed the aging Cooke to take a top 10 spot. Other Notables: Long time contender Jewey Cooke, now 59-16-1 (28), has lost five bouts in a row to fall from #3 to #11 and now at Post-Prime career stage, may not return to the top group. Young Otto tumbled from #6 to #12 and stands at 25-9-2 (12) after setback losses to Wolgast and Knockout Brown. Knockout Brown checks in at #15 with a 17-4-1 (12) record, having a 6-bout win streak snapped by Ray Bronson, who is #14. Willie Ritchie also fell out of the top 10 from #10 to #17, winning only one of four bouts in 1911. Eddie Wallace won 6 in a row but then loss to Donahue to wind up the year at #19 at 24-10 (9). Prospects: Aussie Herb McCoy is 14-0 (8) which includes two wins versus real-life fighters, Willie Beecher (TKO 9) and Terry Brooks (SD 10). Phil Cross was 12-0 before losing his first to Young Tommy Coleman. Alf Goodwin was fed a steady diet of TCs to build his 9-0 (6) mark. Ditto for Mexican Joe Rivers, also 9-0 (6). Brit Phil Bloom is 8-0 (4). Joe Shugrue was off to a 8-0 start before losing to Sam Robideaux. Robideau is 6-1 (1), his only loss to Canadian Gilbert Gallant, who remains unbeaten at 6-0 (1). All-time great Benny Leonard is off to a 3-0 (1) start, already having whipped Bobby Waugh. Rocky Kansas is 1-0 (1). Retirements: Tim Callahan and Kid Fredericks hung up the gloves in 1911. Their career stats: Callahan (USA) 1896-1911 37-26-4 (14) USBA Champ highest rank: 3 Fredericks (USA) 1899-1911 24-23-1 (17) NABF Champ highest rank: 6 Jimmy Britt, Frank Erne, and Art Simms have all reached the End career stage and will likely be the next LWs to leave the scene. Looking Ahead: Not much in the way of new talent entering the divison, only three newcomers in 1912: Richie Mitchell and Joe Welling head the list. Top of the charts may be clogged up as few fighters are aging and it's tough for newcomers to break through. Look for Welsh to challenge Blackburn for the WBA belt. It will take a few years for the really good prospects like Leonard and Kansas to develop.