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Old 12-17-2018, 08:06 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by BaseballMan View Post
I was surprised that Baines made it but after thinking about it, i'm not that upset with it. There are always going to better players that should get in.
I hear people saying you should lead the league, win a championship or some award. Others say championships dont matter.
Making it to the hall means he is one of the greats of the game. However it does not mean we have to consider him as great as Mays, Mantle or Williams.
I dont recall Baines getting in any trouble and he did his job well for 22 years maybe he does belong in the hall. If ishowed up to my job for over 20 years and was very productive i would hope i would be considered a hall of famer for the company.
He was very close to 3,000 hits. It can be said that he got them because he played so long. What player got that many hits without having a long career?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there are not better players that should get in. I just look at it like if i had to draft the player and if i could see his career stats would i take him? I think i probably would unless his career is compared to Aaron's.
Others may not like the choice but i choose to not get upset over it.
Instead i will just be happy for him. It does seem like he will represent the hall with class.
I think there's room for being upset with/not liking the choice and being very happy for a man who appears (one can never fully know these things) to have carried himself with class, dignity, and humility across his 22 year career, and on through to today. I'm upset with the Veterans Committee for allowing people who support player X for the HoF to now say: "Well Harold Baines is in, so now my guy should be too because he was better than Baines" when player X probably doesn't belong either. It's a slippery slope.

I consider the HoF to be for the top 1% of all MLB players plus Negro Leaguers that are selected by the various committees. I do not consider Harold Baines to be among the top 1% of all MLB players that have ever played. I'm sorry, but it's not close for me. Probably everybody will have a different definition of what the top 1% means, and who should be in it.

Some like to look at players who have longevity on their side (Baines is one of these who is outside of the Hall for me), but not much of a peak like Omar Vizquel, Johnny Damon, Vada Pinson, Tommy John, Jim Kaat, and Jamie Moyer. Some like to look at players who have peak on their side (a short peak during which the player was one of the top players in his league). Don Mattingly, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Cliff Lee, Carlos Zambrano, and Johan Santana would fit into this category. Though the players I've listed were all very good players, I don't consider any of them to be HoFers, but I consider all of them to have had better careers than Baines.
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