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VanillaGorilla · 11-27-2012, 07:24 PM

No RL HOFer enters the league in 1997. The most notable player, imo, that does is Dick Allen. I am sure that Philly fan would agree with me on this.

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One thing I have really liked about doing this is getting something about players that I did not know before. I learned a few things with the induction of Al Rosen in this HOF.

That he piloted a boat landing troops (Marines, I am sure...Semper Fi) on to Okinawa was a fact I did not know.

It also did not know that there is a 2010 documentary narrated by Dustin Hoffman about Jews and baseball to which Rosen contributed. I now have that on my must see list.

Al Rosen was taken by the Cubs with the 12th pick in the 1974 draft. He won 9 Gold Gloves at 3B and was named to 5 AS teams. In 1979 he hit 60 HRs, for the Cubs, driving in 150, scoring 140 (all league bests), and slashing 319/397/637 for a npa OPS+ of 181 to win the MVP. He also led the league in hits (206), TB (415)

In 1980 he led the Cubs to a WS win, hitting .405 in post season play after hitting a league best 38 HRs in the regular season.

He retired following the 1991 season with 2425 hits, 456 HRs (26th), 1538 RBI (40th), and a slash of 262/346/450 for a npa OPS + of 123.

Rosen gains entry with his Black Ink and HOFs numbers being above the current Hall averages. He enters in his first year of eligibility.

Black Ink: 35 (23)
Gray Ink: 125 (87)
HOFm: 128.5 (92)
HOFs: 53 (28)

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How many Cy Young Awards did Cy Young win? One. He says he can make as many as he wants, at home.

A First Ballotter through the First Ballot screening, Young put up the type of career we would expect from Cy Young from 1971 through 1991.

He won 340 games (21st) vs 253 losses for a career .573 win %. His OOTP ERA ( I may stop using this term as it does appear that the ER accounting is working accurately, but I won't jump to hopeful conclusins...also, there are players who may enter that completed their career before it wasn't) of 3.48 equates to a npa ERA+ of 114.

The 8th player selected in 1970, Young was on 7 All Star teams. In 1978 he won a career high (equaled once) 24 games vs 11 losses en route to CY's CYA.

He struck out 3488 men while walking only 1011 in 5389 IP. The only HOFers with a better BB/9 number are Cozy P Dolan, Charlie Ferguson, James Burke, and Matt Kilroy. He pitched 41 career shut outs.

He appeared in 3 post seasons with the Reds, but never reached the WS. He has a 1-4 W-L mark in post season play.

All of his metrics in use here are above the current Hall averages.

Black Ink: 45 (99)
Gray Ink: 249 (468)
HOFm: 181 (328)
HOFs: 60 (82)

11-27-2012, 07:24 PM	#97
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371 Blog Entries: 2	Class of 1997: Rosen, Young No RL HOFer enters the league in 1997. The most notable player, imo, that does is Dick Allen. I am sure that Philly fan would agree with me on this. ------------------- One thing I have really liked about doing this is getting something about players that I did not know before. I learned a few things with the induction of Al Rosen in this HOF. That he piloted a boat landing troops (Marines, I am sure...Semper Fi) on to Okinawa was a fact I did not know. It also did not know that there is a 2010 documentary narrated by Dustin Hoffman about Jews and baseball to which Rosen contributed. I now have that on my must see list. Al Rosen was taken by the Cubs with the 12th pick in the 1974 draft. He won 9 Gold Gloves at 3B and was named to 5 AS teams. In 1979 he hit 60 HRs, for the Cubs, driving in 150, scoring 140 (all league bests), and slashing 319/397/637 for a npa OPS+ of 181 to win the MVP. He also led the league in hits (206), TB (415) In 1980 he led the Cubs to a WS win, hitting .405 in post season play after hitting a league best 38 HRs in the regular season. He retired following the 1991 season with 2425 hits, 456 HRs (26th), 1538 RBI (40th), and a slash of 262/346/450 for a npa OPS + of 123. Rosen gains entry with his Black Ink and HOFs numbers being above the current Hall averages. He enters in his first year of eligibility. Black Ink: 35 (23) Gray Ink: 125 (87) HOFm: 128.5 (92) HOFs: 53 (28) ------------------ How many Cy Young Awards did Cy Young win? One. He says he can make as many as he wants, at home. A First Ballotter through the First Ballot screening, Young put up the type of career we would expect from Cy Young from 1971 through 1991. He won 340 games (21st) vs 253 losses for a career .573 win %. His OOTP ERA ( I may stop using this term as it does appear that the ER accounting is working accurately, but I won't jump to hopeful conclusins...also, there are players who may enter that completed their career before it wasn't) of 3.48 equates to a npa ERA+ of 114. The 8th player selected in 1970, Young was on 7 All Star teams. In 1978 he won a career high (equaled once) 24 games vs 11 losses en route to CY's CYA. He struck out 3488 men while walking only 1011 in 5389 IP. The only HOFers with a better BB/9 number are Cozy P Dolan, Charlie Ferguson, James Burke, and Matt Kilroy. He pitched 41 career shut outs. He appeared in 3 post seasons with the Reds, but never reached the WS. He has a 1-4 W-L mark in post season play. All of his metrics in use here are above the current Hall averages. Black Ink: 45 (99) Gray Ink: 249 (468) HOFm: 181 (328) HOFs: 60 (82)