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VanillaGorilla · 10-17-2012, 06:41 AM

That's Shoeless Joe. He parts the corn stalks and arrives to take a spot in my Field of Dreams HOF after playing 24 seasons in the majors. I think I am liking my imaginary world better than the real one. Not that that would be anything new for me...

There were no inductions in 1958 and now the players that had the 5 year wait are becoming eligible. There won't be any floor cracking for a while. I had 2 for sure First Ballotters but only one slot, and Jackson's name came up on top, er, the selection committee chose him.

How good was Jackson? The player hierarchy is now Cobb/Jackson, then Speaker, then everyone else. Jackson put together a compsite score of 16.20, compared to Cobb's 16.27. Will post chart at end of the post and discuss it in the next.

Shoeless Joe Jackson got 200 hits in a season 13 times.
He won 12 MVP awards.
He has the longest hitting streak in GorillaBall history, 49 games.
He won a Triple Crown.
He lost a World Series while hitting .368 in 5 games for Chicago...but it was the Cubs, who can lose WS without throwing them, just fine.
He won a GG in LF.
He was the first player selected in 1928 and won ROY in 1929.
He enters the Hall as the career leader in VORP, 1589.9.
He enters the Hall as the career leader in triples, 305.
His .355 BA is second all-time to Cobb's .360.
His .424 OBP is 4th all-time.
His .549 slg% is 4th all-time.
His .971 OPS is second all time to a still active player known as "Junior".
He is 2nd all-time in Games (3318), ABs (12474), Hits (4430), TB (6851), Singles (2970), and doubles (827), trailing Cobb in each category.
His 328 HRs ties him with Jimmy Wynn for 14th all-time.

Like Cobb, he won TEN straight batting titles. He won 2 others, which gives him one more than Cobb.

In 1930 he had the best offensive season by any player, ever. Leading the league in hitting with a .446 average (best ever), he got on base at a .510 clip (2nd best ever) and slugged .787 (best ever). His 287 hits and 506 TBs are also bests in a single season, ever. A VORP of 170.4 and a WAR of 17.2 are also bests ever. I am going to go out on a limb and say his npa OPS+ of 229 is also the best ever for a season. BTW, he hit 40 doubles, 25 triples and 43 (!) HRs that year. And stole 19 bases to rub it in, a little.

His career npa OPS+ of 164 bests Cobb's 157.

Don't know which player is better. But if Cobb talks trash and says he is definitely better, Joe can tell him to stick it.

ADD: Jackson's 1.296 OPS in 1930 is also the best ever, by a lot (2nd best is 1.181).

Black: 169 (14)
Gray: 403 (186)
HOFm:546.5 (122)
HOFs: 84 (40)

10-17-2012, 06:41 AM	#37
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371 Blog Entries: 2	Class of 1959: Jackson That's Shoeless Joe. He parts the corn stalks and arrives to take a spot in my Field of Dreams HOF after playing 24 seasons in the majors. I think I am liking my imaginary world better than the real one. Not that that would be anything new for me... There were no inductions in 1958 and now the players that had the 5 year wait are becoming eligible. There won't be any floor cracking for a while. I had 2 for sure First Ballotters but only one slot, and Jackson's name came up on top, er, the selection committee chose him. How good was Jackson? The player hierarchy is now Cobb/Jackson, then Speaker, then everyone else. Jackson put together a compsite score of 16.20, compared to Cobb's 16.27. Will post chart at end of the post and discuss it in the next. Shoeless Joe Jackson got 200 hits in a season 13 times. He won 12 MVP awards. He has the longest hitting streak in GorillaBall history, 49 games. He won a Triple Crown. He lost a World Series while hitting .368 in 5 games for Chicago...but it was the Cubs, who can lose WS without throwing them, just fine. He won a GG in LF. He was the first player selected in 1928 and won ROY in 1929. He enters the Hall as the career leader in VORP, 1589.9. He enters the Hall as the career leader in triples, 305. His .355 BA is second all-time to Cobb's .360. His .424 OBP is 4th all-time. His .549 slg% is 4th all-time. His .971 OPS is second all time to a still active player known as "Junior". He is 2nd all-time in Games (3318), ABs (12474), Hits (4430), TB (6851), Singles (2970), and doubles (827), trailing Cobb in each category. His 328 HRs ties him with Jimmy Wynn for 14th all-time. Like Cobb, he won TEN straight batting titles. He won 2 others, which gives him one more than Cobb. In 1930 he had the best offensive season by any player, ever. Leading the league in hitting with a .446 average (best ever), he got on base at a .510 clip (2nd best ever) and slugged .787 (best ever). His 287 hits and 506 TBs are also bests in a single season, ever. A VORP of 170.4 and a WAR of 17.2 are also bests ever. I am going to go out on a limb and say his npa OPS+ of 229 is also the best ever for a season. BTW, he hit 40 doubles, 25 triples and 43 (!) HRs that year. And stole 19 bases to rub it in, a little. His career npa OPS+ of 164 bests Cobb's 157. Don't know which player is better. But if Cobb talks trash and says he is definitely better, Joe can tell him to stick it. ADD: Jackson's 1.296 OPS in 1930 is also the best ever, by a lot (2nd best is 1.181). Black: 169 (14) Gray: 403 (186) HOFm:546.5 (122) HOFs: 84 (40) Attached Images Last edited by VanillaGorilla; 10-17-2012 at 12:03 PM.