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VanillaGorilla · 11-30-2012, 02:15 AM

From top to bottom, this may be the strongest class to enter, including the original. 35 All Star games, 6 MVP/CYAs, 1200 HRs and 3000 Ks, all in one group. I haven't gone back through the classes but I am fairly certain that the 1200+ HRs is the most for any class, here. This record will stand until the class of 1999 is inducted.....

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Joe Corbett was the third player selected in the 1970 draft. He signed with the Reds and played for them from 1971-1988, then bounced to three other teams before retiring in 1992.

Corbett recorded 3686 (10th) strikeouts in a career 4458 2/3 IP. His 7.44 K/9 rate is the 44th best for a career. As far as HOFers go, only Koufax, Rusie, Grove, and Kershaw have a higher career rate.

From 1972 through 1975, he struck out 300 + hitters each season. In 1972 he struck out a career high of 370.

From 194 through 1979 he won 20, or more, games in each season. He won the Cy Young Award in 1974 and 1975. During those two seasons he was a combined 44-22 with 655 Ks, and a npa ERA+ of 171.

For his career he had a 264-206 record with an OOTP ERA of 3.07 which is good for an outstanding career npa ERA+ of 130.

Corbett was a 7 time All-Star and appeared in 5 post seasons. He never made the WS. He also never won a post season game. He went 0-6 with an OOTP ERA of 5.36 in 7 games (all starts).

Corbett gets in on the First Ballot screening given to computer inductees. His Ink and HOF composites were both higher than the current Hall averages.

Black Ink: 51
Gray Ink: 203
HOFm: 169
HOFs: 48

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Willie Stargell was a GREAT player IRL. One of those guys that gets passed over in greatest talks. He played in cavernous stadiums during dominantly pitching years and was a stud slugger of epic proportions.

Here, he came into the league with the Indians in 1970 after being taken as the 16th player in the 1969 draft. Cleveland Stadium wasn't exactly a hitter's park, but Stargell turned it into one.

A 3 time MVP and 16 time All Star (only Willie Mays and Frank Robinson are Hall members who went to more ASGs) Stargell posted a 296/360/555 career slash line for a npa OPS+ of 156. Stargells's slg% is 12th best at the time of his induction. Amongst HOFers, only Ken Griffey Jr holds a better mark. Only 2 other retired players (niether yet eligible for the HOF) have a better slg%. Active players plop into the top 10 of this category and slip out, with frequency.

Stargell collected 3470 hits (16th) and drove in 2396 (4th) while banging 788 HRs (4th).

He is 10th on the VORP list and 17th on the WAR list.

His Cleveland Indians won the division each season from 1975 through 1980. They went to 4 WS, and won 3. Stargell went to the A's in a 1985 mid season trade. In 1986 he won a WS with them. He signed with the Dodgers as a free agent that off season. Guess what? The Dodgers won the WS in 1987.

In 1979 he was a teammate of HOFer Amos Rusie for that title team. HOFer Andy Van Slyke was a team mate in '77 and '79. There will be more HOFers from these teams.

Back to willie: 6 times he led the league in HRs (hitting 60 twice) and 6 times he led in RBI. He also won a batting tile in 1972. That year he finished second in the league in both HRs and RBI.

Stargell gets in on the First Ballot screening. His composite score is over 10 which classifies him as a "once in a decade" player.

Black: 90 (17)
Gray: 295 (125)
HOFm: 407 (106)
HOFs: 64 (44)

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If Stargell was picked 16th in 1969, who the heck was picked ahead of him?? Larry Doyle, for one....he was the second player taken in the draft (Kansas City Royals). Was he as good as Stargell? No....but he is a legitimate HOFer.

Doyle went to 12 All-Star games and won an MVP in 1974 hitting .317 and 27 HRs while scoring and driving in over 100 runs, all from the second base position. Stargell's Indians won division after division and Doyle never saw the play-offs with the Royals. So, when he became a free agent following the 1976 season, he signed with the Indians...and the rich got richer.

Doyle was on Cleveland's 1979 WS winning team (I said there would be other HOFers from these teams....and there will be more). He hit .302 and 3 HRs in 15 career post season games...all with Cleveland.

For his career, Doyle had a slash line of 296/371/463 for a npa OPS+ of 134. He hit 398 HRs. His 374 as a 2Bman is 3rd best. he stole 592 bases and ranks 6th amongst 2Bman in that career category. He led the league in SB 4 times.

4 times he collected 200+ hits in a season, including a career high 243 (28th) in 1974.

Doyle enters by virtue of his HOFm and HOFs numbers being above the Hall average.

Black: 25 (13)
Gray: 174 (138)
HOFm: 226 (60)
HOFs: 74 (28)

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No RL HOFers join the league in 1998. J R Richard is the most noteworthy player (imo) that does.

11-30-2012, 02:15 AM	#98
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371 Blog Entries: 2	Class of 1998: Corbett, Stargell, Doyle From top to bottom, this may be the strongest class to enter, including the original. 35 All Star games, 6 MVP/CYAs, 1200 HRs and 3000 Ks, all in one group. I haven't gone back through the classes but I am fairly certain that the 1200+ HRs is the most for any class, here. This record will stand until the class of 1999 is inducted..... ----------- Joe Corbett was the third player selected in the 1970 draft. He signed with the Reds and played for them from 1971-1988, then bounced to three other teams before retiring in 1992. Corbett recorded 3686 (10th) strikeouts in a career 4458 2/3 IP. His 7.44 K/9 rate is the 44th best for a career. As far as HOFers go, only Koufax, Rusie, Grove, and Kershaw have a higher career rate. From 1972 through 1975, he struck out 300 + hitters each season. In 1972 he struck out a career high of 370. From 194 through 1979 he won 20, or more, games in each season. He won the Cy Young Award in 1974 and 1975. During those two seasons he was a combined 44-22 with 655 Ks, and a npa ERA+ of 171. For his career he had a 264-206 record with an OOTP ERA of 3.07 which is good for an outstanding career npa ERA+ of 130. Corbett was a 7 time All-Star and appeared in 5 post seasons. He never made the WS. He also never won a post season game. He went 0-6 with an OOTP ERA of 5.36 in 7 games (all starts). Corbett gets in on the First Ballot screening given to computer inductees. His Ink and HOF composites were both higher than the current Hall averages. Black Ink: 51 Gray Ink: 203 HOFm: 169 HOFs: 48 ---------------------------- Willie Stargell was a GREAT player IRL. One of those guys that gets passed over in greatest talks. He played in cavernous stadiums during dominantly pitching years and was a stud slugger of epic proportions. Here, he came into the league with the Indians in 1970 after being taken as the 16th player in the 1969 draft. Cleveland Stadium wasn't exactly a hitter's park, but Stargell turned it into one. A 3 time MVP and 16 time All Star (only Willie Mays and Frank Robinson are Hall members who went to more ASGs) Stargell posted a 296/360/555 career slash line for a npa OPS+ of 156. Stargells's slg% is 12th best at the time of his induction. Amongst HOFers, only Ken Griffey Jr holds a better mark. Only 2 other retired players (niether yet eligible for the HOF) have a better slg%. Active players plop into the top 10 of this category and slip out, with frequency. Stargell collected 3470 hits (16th) and drove in 2396 (4th) while banging 788 HRs (4th). He is 10th on the VORP list and 17th on the WAR list. His Cleveland Indians won the division each season from 1975 through 1980. They went to 4 WS, and won 3. Stargell went to the A's in a 1985 mid season trade. In 1986 he won a WS with them. He signed with the Dodgers as a free agent that off season. Guess what? The Dodgers won the WS in 1987. In 1979 he was a teammate of HOFer Amos Rusie for that title team. HOFer Andy Van Slyke was a team mate in '77 and '79. There will be more HOFers from these teams. Back to willie: 6 times he led the league in HRs (hitting 60 twice) and 6 times he led in RBI. He also won a batting tile in 1972. That year he finished second in the league in both HRs and RBI. Stargell gets in on the First Ballot screening. His composite score is over 10 which classifies him as a "once in a decade" player. Black: 90 (17) Gray: 295 (125) HOFm: 407 (106) HOFs: 64 (44) ------------------------------ If Stargell was picked 16th in 1969, who the heck was picked ahead of him?? Larry Doyle, for one....he was the second player taken in the draft (Kansas City Royals). Was he as good as Stargell? No....but he is a legitimate HOFer. Doyle went to 12 All-Star games and won an MVP in 1974 hitting .317 and 27 HRs while scoring and driving in over 100 runs, all from the second base position. Stargell's Indians won division after division and Doyle never saw the play-offs with the Royals. So, when he became a free agent following the 1976 season, he signed with the Indians...and the rich got richer. Doyle was on Cleveland's 1979 WS winning team (I said there would be other HOFers from these teams....and there will be more). He hit .302 and 3 HRs in 15 career post season games...all with Cleveland. For his career, Doyle had a slash line of 296/371/463 for a npa OPS+ of 134. He hit 398 HRs. His 374 as a 2Bman is 3rd best. he stole 592 bases and ranks 6th amongst 2Bman in that career category. He led the league in SB 4 times. 4 times he collected 200+ hits in a season, including a career high 243 (28th) in 1974. Doyle enters by virtue of his HOFm and HOFs numbers being above the Hall average. Black: 25 (13) Gray: 174 (138) HOFm: 226 (60) HOFs: 74 (28) ------------------------------------ No RL HOFers join the league in 1998. J R Richard is the most noteworthy player (imo) that does.