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VanillaGorilla · 04-05-2013, 02:55 AM

At the age of 79, Juan Gonzalez gets the call from the Hall. He joins Adrian Gonzalez as the first two hitters to be enshrined with the same last name. Alberte Belle and Buddy Bell do not count (I like Buddy too much to do that to him).

The Gonzalezez join the Martinezez and Walshezez as the third shared surname pairs to be enshrined.

Juan Gon was selected by the Twins with the 10th overall selection of the 1994 draft. He failed to sign and was drafted with the second pick in 1995 by the Giants.

In 1996, as a 19 year-old rookie, Gonzalez burst on the scene by smashing 53 HRs and driving in what would be a career high of 152 RBI while slashing 316/370/660 for a npa OPS+ 170 and a Rookie of the Year Award.

In 15 ML seasons, Gonzalez played in 162 games only twice. The most games he played in when he didn't play 162 was 137. In half of his seasons, he played in 107 games or less. When he played, he was a monster. For his career he averaged 49 HRs per 162 games played.

In 1999, he had one of the best seasons, ever. In 1999 he set the single season record for HRs (broken by Willie McCovey 10 years later) by hitting 83 HRs...in only 136 games. His slash line of 335/404/852 made for a npa OPS+ of 225. This season netted Gonzalez the MVP.

4 times Gonzalez was named an All Star. He hit 498 career HRs (55th, 1 behind Babe Ruth and Ron Cey) in 6095 ABs. He has a career slash line of 287/337/592 for a npa OPS+ of 147.

5 times he hit 50 HRs in a season. He retires with 1749 hits and 1332 RBI.

Juan Gonzalez enters the HOF on the Veteran Standard.

Black Ink: 20 (17)
Gray Ink: 87 (105)
HOFm: 141 (123)
HOFs: 36 (40)

Gorilla Composite: 3.0 (3.0)

Using the standards here and applying them to his real life record, and not taking any non performance issues (or performance enhancing issues) into account, Juan Gonzalez should not be inducted into the RL HOF. (The metrics are similar here and for his RL record, but I have not calculated what the equivalent Veteran Standard would be for RL, and it is the VS upon which Gonzalez enters, here).

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Kid Nichols is currently the 11th ranked pitcher on BBREF's Elo meter. He was in the top 10 yesterday when I was placing a few votes....talk about a potential time sucker that thing is...I love it.

Here Nichols was chosen with the top pick in the 2023 draft by the Rockies. He did not sign with them and was chosen by the Royals with the fifth pick the following year. He chose not to sign with them, either, and was picked by the Angels with the 10th pick in 2025.

As a 21 year-old rookie, he went 15-10 and had an OOTP ERA of 3.45 (npa ERA+ 122). He struck out 270 batters in 240 IP while walking only 42.

In 2029 he posted an incredible 32-2 record as he earned the Cy Young Award. His OOTP ERA of 2.59 was a npa ERA+ of 168.

For his career he posted a record of 236-160 and an OOTP ERA of 3.40 (npa ERA+ 128). He is tied for 21st on the career win list, 1 ahead of Mike Mussina. He struck out 3804 men (10th, no eligible player has more Ks and is not in the HOF) in 3678 1/3 IP (22nd, 1 more IP than Stan Coveleski).

In three post seasons, Nichols was 3-1 and struck out 51 batters in 49 IP. He went to won WS but came up short on the title chase.

Nichols enters the HOF with Black Ink and Gray Ink numbers above the current Hall averages.

Kid Nichols is the 35th RL HOFer to be inducted, here. He retired in 2042 and enters the Hall at age 51.

Black Ink: 39 (35)
Gray Ink: 235 (309)
HOFm: 137 (228)
HOFs: 49 (69)

Gorilla Composite: 3.9 (5.1)

04-05-2013, 02:55 AM	#87
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371 Blog Entries: 2	Class of 2056 (1984), Part 2: Gonzalez, Nichols At the age of 79, Juan Gonzalez gets the call from the Hall. He joins Adrian Gonzalez as the first two hitters to be enshrined with the same last name. Alberte Belle and Buddy Bell do not count (I like Buddy too much to do that to him). The Gonzalezez join the Martinezez and Walshezez as the third shared surname pairs to be enshrined. Juan Gon was selected by the Twins with the 10th overall selection of the 1994 draft. He failed to sign and was drafted with the second pick in 1995 by the Giants. In 1996, as a 19 year-old rookie, Gonzalez burst on the scene by smashing 53 HRs and driving in what would be a career high of 152 RBI while slashing 316/370/660 for a npa OPS+ 170 and a Rookie of the Year Award. In 15 ML seasons, Gonzalez played in 162 games only twice. The most games he played in when he didn't play 162 was 137. In half of his seasons, he played in 107 games or less. When he played, he was a monster. For his career he averaged 49 HRs per 162 games played. In 1999, he had one of the best seasons, ever. In 1999 he set the single season record for HRs (broken by Willie McCovey 10 years later) by hitting 83 HRs...in only 136 games. His slash line of 335/404/852 made for a npa OPS+ of 225. This season netted Gonzalez the MVP. 4 times Gonzalez was named an All Star. He hit 498 career HRs (55th, 1 behind Babe Ruth and Ron Cey) in 6095 ABs. He has a career slash line of 287/337/592 for a npa OPS+ of 147. 5 times he hit 50 HRs in a season. He retires with 1749 hits and 1332 RBI. Juan Gonzalez enters the HOF on the Veteran Standard. Black Ink: 20 (17) Gray Ink: 87 (105) HOFm: 141 (123) HOFs: 36 (40) Gorilla Composite: 3.0 (3.0) Using the standards here and applying them to his real life record, and not taking any non performance issues (or performance enhancing issues) into account, Juan Gonzalez should not be inducted into the RL HOF. (The metrics are similar here and for his RL record, but I have not calculated what the equivalent Veteran Standard would be for RL, and it is the VS upon which Gonzalez enters, here). --------------------------------- Kid Nichols is currently the 11th ranked pitcher on BBREF's Elo meter. He was in the top 10 yesterday when I was placing a few votes....talk about a potential time sucker that thing is...I love it. Here Nichols was chosen with the top pick in the 2023 draft by the Rockies. He did not sign with them and was chosen by the Royals with the fifth pick the following year. He chose not to sign with them, either, and was picked by the Angels with the 10th pick in 2025. As a 21 year-old rookie, he went 15-10 and had an OOTP ERA of 3.45 (npa ERA+ 122). He struck out 270 batters in 240 IP while walking only 42. In 2029 he posted an incredible 32-2 record as he earned the Cy Young Award. His OOTP ERA of 2.59 was a npa ERA+ of 168. For his career he posted a record of 236-160 and an OOTP ERA of 3.40 (npa ERA+ 128). He is tied for 21st on the career win list, 1 ahead of Mike Mussina. He struck out 3804 men (10th, no eligible player has more Ks and is not in the HOF) in 3678 1/3 IP (22nd, 1 more IP than Stan Coveleski). In three post seasons, Nichols was 3-1 and struck out 51 batters in 49 IP. He went to won WS but came up short on the title chase. Nichols enters the HOF with Black Ink and Gray Ink numbers above the current Hall averages. Kid Nichols is the 35th RL HOFer to be inducted, here. He retired in 2042 and enters the Hall at age 51. Black Ink: 39 (35) Gray Ink: 235 (309) HOFm: 137 (228) HOFs: 49 (69) Gorilla Composite: 3.9 (5.1)