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VanillaGorilla · 10-20-2012, 05:05 PM

Who? And no, this is not a floor breaker.

This is the 30th class of my experiment with RL modeling of the HOF. An updated chart that plots composite scores vs time of entry is below.

I am so far pleased with the results, here. I have some head scratching entries and head scratching omissions. The dominant players get in on the first ballot, and overlooked players have gotten in, eventually.

Top players according to BBREF Elo rater (a cool little time waster that can suck up an hour before you know it if you aren't watching out) that will not get in the HOF:

Top Hitter: Ted Williams. Misscouted and not given opportunity to play.

Top Pitcher: Roger Clemens. Ditto.

Top Active Hitter: Alex Rodriguez. First rd draft pick in 1885. Played entire career with Pittsburgh and hit .261 with 132 HRs. Not a Honus Wagner.

Top Active Pitcher: Tim Hudson. First overall pick in 1887, Stuff scouting dropped in 1891 and he had trouble getting starts. Accumulated only 6 years MLB experience.

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Charlie Geggus, like previous inductee Ed Dugan, played one season of Major League ball in 1884. Still, Dugan was drafted 2nd over all, in 1930, and Geggus taken first in 1907.

Like 40% of the first overall picks in this league, Geggus started his career by winning the Rookie of the Year. He went 19-15 with a league beast OOTP ERA of 1.57, but didn't win the CYA. In his career he went 339-287 with 2835 Ks (10th All-Time) and had a npa ERA+ of 123 from an OOTP ERA of 2.56. He didn't win the best pitcher award in any season. Lots of great names appeared early, and lots of unexpected names developed into great pitchers. The competition was tough for pitching honors from the time he joined the league till his retirement in 1927.

He played his entire career with the White Sox and won 1 WS in 4 tries. He was teammates with HOF Steve Yerkes. There will be others from these teams that will eventually get in.

Except for Black Ink, all of Geggus' numbers exceed the Hall averages.

ADD: In 1908 Geggus limited opposing hitters to a .228 slg%, a record that still stands.

Black Ink: 24
Gray Ink: 300
HOFm: 185
HOFs: 69

10-20-2012, 05:05 PM	#47
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371 Blog Entries: 2	Class of 1965: Geggus Who? And no, this is not a floor breaker. This is the 30th class of my experiment with RL modeling of the HOF. An updated chart that plots composite scores vs time of entry is below. I am so far pleased with the results, here. I have some head scratching entries and head scratching omissions. The dominant players get in on the first ballot, and overlooked players have gotten in, eventually. Top players according to BBREF Elo rater (a cool little time waster that can suck up an hour before you know it if you aren't watching out) that will not get in the HOF: Top Hitter: Ted Williams. Misscouted and not given opportunity to play. Top Pitcher: Roger Clemens. Ditto. Top Active Hitter: Alex Rodriguez. First rd draft pick in 1885. Played entire career with Pittsburgh and hit .261 with 132 HRs. Not a Honus Wagner. Top Active Pitcher: Tim Hudson. First overall pick in 1887, Stuff scouting dropped in 1891 and he had trouble getting starts. Accumulated only 6 years MLB experience. ---------------- Charlie Geggus, like previous inductee Ed Dugan, played one season of Major League ball in 1884. Still, Dugan was drafted 2nd over all, in 1930, and Geggus taken first in 1907. Like 40% of the first overall picks in this league, Geggus started his career by winning the Rookie of the Year. He went 19-15 with a league beast OOTP ERA of 1.57, but didn't win the CYA. In his career he went 339-287 with 2835 Ks (10th All-Time) and had a npa ERA+ of 123 from an OOTP ERA of 2.56. He didn't win the best pitcher award in any season. Lots of great names appeared early, and lots of unexpected names developed into great pitchers. The competition was tough for pitching honors from the time he joined the league till his retirement in 1927. He played his entire career with the White Sox and won 1 WS in 4 tries. He was teammates with HOF Steve Yerkes. There will be others from these teams that will eventually get in. Except for Black Ink, all of Geggus' numbers exceed the Hall averages. ADD: In 1908 Geggus limited opposing hitters to a .228 slg%, a record that still stands. Black Ink: 24 Gray Ink: 300 HOFm: 185 HOFs: 69 Last edited by VanillaGorilla; 10-21-2012 at 07:39 PM.