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Vholes · 01-07-2005, 11:06 AM

Hi,

I'm toying with putting together a modified historical database, and I have a question for any of you who have done this sort of thing before:

What database inputs, if any, will cause OOTP to import a player with low initial ratings but high talent?

Specifically, I'm looking to set up a system (similar to what Gambo uses) that will import players in their age-18 year, regardless of their actual debut. For players whose actual debuts did not occur until later, I want them to import with essentially replacement-level initial ratings. However, I want their talent ratings to reflect their real-life peaks.

The problem I have found is that assigning a player bad stats in their age-18 year gives them lousy talent ratings and little chance of improvement, regardless of how stellar the rest of their stats in the database are. Doing a trial run with a couple of test players I entered into the database, for example, a player (Player A) who was assigned replacement-level rookie stats and no subsequent seasons imported as a bad player with low talent (as intended). However, a player (Player B) who was given identical first-year stats as Player A, followed by 20 years of all-star-caliber seasons, imported with the identical lousy ratings _and_ the same poor talent as Player A. (After erasing the rookie year and importing Player B according to his second-year stats, Player B imported with astronomically high talent and ratings).

I found that if I imported Player B based on his good seasons only (resulting in very high ratings and very high talent), and manually edited the ratings down to replacement-level while leaving the talent undisturbed, I would get the result I wanted: a player who is not yet ready for the bigs at age 18, but who makes rapid progress over the next few years and is a star by the time he is in his early 20s. However, I don't want to have to go through this manually for every player in the game-- I would much rather tinker with the database so they import this way.

Has anybody ever been able to discover a solution to this problem? I have used Ankit's career averages database in the past, but I am trying to avoid the problem of having rookies who import with unrealistically good stats (really the only big drawback of Ankit's database).

Any suggestions?

01-07-2005, 11:06 AM	#1
Vholes Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 28	Question for database modders: low ratings + high talent? Hi, I'm toying with putting together a modified historical database, and I have a question for any of you who have done this sort of thing before: What database inputs, if any, will cause OOTP to import a player with low initial ratings but high talent? Specifically, I'm looking to set up a system (similar to what Gambo uses) that will import players in their age-18 year, regardless of their actual debut. For players whose actual debuts did not occur until later, I want them to import with essentially replacement-level initial ratings. However, I want their talent ratings to reflect their real-life peaks. The problem I have found is that assigning a player bad stats in their age-18 year gives them lousy talent ratings and little chance of improvement, regardless of how stellar the rest of their stats in the database are. Doing a trial run with a couple of test players I entered into the database, for example, a player (Player A) who was assigned replacement-level rookie stats and no subsequent seasons imported as a bad player with low talent (as intended). However, a player (Player B) who was given identical first-year stats as Player A, followed by 20 years of all-star-caliber seasons, imported with the identical lousy ratings _and_ the same poor talent as Player A. (After erasing the rookie year and importing Player B according to his second-year stats, Player B imported with astronomically high talent and ratings). I found that if I imported Player B based on his good seasons only (resulting in very high ratings and very high talent), and manually edited the ratings down to replacement-level while leaving the talent undisturbed, I would get the result I wanted: a player who is not yet ready for the bigs at age 18, but who makes rapid progress over the next few years and is a star by the time he is in his early 20s. However, I don't want to have to go through this manually for every player in the game-- I would much rather tinker with the database so they import this way. Has anybody ever been able to discover a solution to this problem? I have used Ankit's career averages database in the past, but I am trying to avoid the problem of having rookies who import with unrealistically good stats (really the only big drawback of Ankit's database). Any suggestions?