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mrchallenge · 12-21-2004, 01:09 PM

WOW!!! Thanx for such a great response to my post guys. Here are my thoughts:

Robinson was as hard of a one punch banger as Jackson, he just didn't have as high of a KO percentage due to several factors:

1. Tougher opponents, more skilled opponents, naturally bigger opponents (he fought 24 middleweights while still a welter), tendency to carry opponents (as stated in his autobiography, eg. the Armstrong fight).

2. Robinson scored stoppages over tough guys like LaMotta, Zivic, Fullmer. Jackson was a huge puncher but remember his best shots didn't faze McClellan and McCallum.

3. If you look at films of Robinson's fights, many of his KO's are of the one punch variety.

Also, I'm not quite sure that modern guys are better athletes. After all , Jack Dempsey could run the 100 yards in 10 secs. Jim Jeffries could do back flips. Alot of the old timers like Jack Johnson and Joe Gans were as fast, hard hitting and strong as modern guys. But the oldtime heavyweights were alot smaller though.

Finally, I'm not trying to come off as an old fogie who thinks that John L. Sullivan could have whipped Evander Holyfield LOL. I'm only 24 years old and I agree, every era has great fighters and not so great fighters.

12-21-2004, 01:09 PM	#18
mrchallenge Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 167	WOW!!! Thanx for such a great response to my post guys. Here are my thoughts: Robinson was as hard of a one punch banger as Jackson, he just didn't have as high of a KO percentage due to several factors: 1. Tougher opponents, more skilled opponents, naturally bigger opponents (he fought 24 middleweights while still a welter), tendency to carry opponents (as stated in his autobiography, eg. the Armstrong fight). 2. Robinson scored stoppages over tough guys like LaMotta, Zivic, Fullmer. Jackson was a huge puncher but remember his best shots didn't faze McClellan and McCallum. 3. If you look at films of Robinson's fights, many of his KO's are of the one punch variety. Also, I'm not quite sure that modern guys are better athletes. After all , Jack Dempsey could run the 100 yards in 10 secs. Jim Jeffries could do back flips. Alot of the old timers like Jack Johnson and Joe Gans were as fast, hard hitting and strong as modern guys. But the oldtime heavyweights were alot smaller though. Finally, I'm not trying to come off as an old fogie who thinks that John L. Sullivan could have whipped Evander Holyfield LOL. I'm only 24 years old and I agree, every era has great fighters and not so great fighters.