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Old 12-13-2004, 12:30 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by meade95
First off I do not think that is how TBCB hitting power is come to (that equation) and if so....then TBCB is riddled throughout with errors - Secondly, if that is the equation it is simply silly -

The notion of competition level plays a much larger factor in determining one's punching power (I can name you 50 Asian fighters who have tons of KO's....and a KO % right up in the 90 %.....yet their hitting power should be no more than a 4 at best) -

Lastly, Klitschko's competition has been anything BUT World Class for the majority of his KO's - And trying to say an over-the-hill Tyson didn't knock Williams out isn't saying anything -

Fact is I have watched Klitschko fight now for 3 years (and I have also watched 9 of his other fights on tape) - The guy has no where near a 12 HP....Not even close.
First of all that IS the TBCB formula for rating punching power. I wrote it down a couple of years ago from the old website. Ask Andreas or the Trunzos if that isn't a close facsimile of the number crunching they do to derive HP. Do you honestly think I just made that up?

Secondly, I think I made it perfectly clear that adjustments for HP could be made for both career stage and level of competition faced.

Vitali Klitschko's competition at THIS STAGE of his career has been world class. Like it or not, Danny Williams, Corrie Sanders, Kirk Johnson, and then world champion Lennox Lewis have to be considered world class. Whether the majority of his KOs came against world class competition is completely irrelevant, because we are talking about CAREER STAGE. The same could be said for power punchers like Rocky Marciano and George Foreman. You won't recognize most of the names on their resumes' before they became contenders and champions, either.

Mike Tyson, despite his fading boxing skills, is still one of the hardest punchers in the sport. Everyone knows that punching power is usually the last thing a heavyweight loses. TBCB has Tyson's current HP at 11, so it is relevant that he failed to knock Danny Williams down and Klitschko managed to do it 4 times.

I have also followed Vitali Klitschko's career very closely and think he deserves the "12" rating for HP. 34 KOs in 35 wins speaks for itself.
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