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Originally Posted by Anachronism
HELLO PEOPLE... wake up and smell the coffee...
Of course the NHLPA is brilliant, but not because of a "great offer" - because they KNOW that they've done little if anything to damage their position in the future.
All you people who believe that the 24% pay cut is a "great move" have been snowed by the NHLPA... sorry... it will do VERY little if anything. Most contracts in existance right now are less than 3 years... what that means is that in 3 years everyone will be making the same money once again.
There is NOTHING in the offer that will stop Toronto, or Philadelphia, or New York or any other team from offering super high contracts to players once again. I mean, if Mats Sundin was getting paid $9 million a year, why wouldn't he ask for $9 million again once his contract is up?
The 24% cut is salary is a smoke screen - and it looks like you guys fell for it. Of course the NHLPA can offer it, because they know that historically the owners can't control themselves, are capable of making STUPID signings, and will in a matter of a few short years escalate salaries right back up where they are currently. Then the NHLPA can shake their heads and say "well, we tried, but the owners again increased salaries!"
The NHLPA knows what there are doing... there is no gamble in this....
(and before someone slams me for being on the owner's side, I am not... I think the owner's are acting incredible stupid asking the players to carry the burdon for their own mistakes. I think the BEST solution to this mess is
1) PUNATIVE salary tax (like 50% to 100% of salaries over the cap)
2) REVENUE SHARING - the league has to share revenues to help smaller teams be competative
3) SALARY BASE - if you have revenue sharing, then you need to ensure that each team spends a minimum each year - otherwise owners like those in Chicago will just pocket the revenue sharing money....)
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Agreed. If the NHL accepts this offer, then we'll be having this same discussion 5 years (or however long the agreement lasts) down the road again. Luxury taxes do very little, especially if the team who is "guilty" makes a lot of money to cover whatever tax they have to pay. If Toronto (haha yeah right) is at $49 million in payroll but feel that all they need to do to win the Cup is outbid the Oilers on a marque player, do you honestly think that the luxury tax is going to scare them away from paying $10 million for that marque player to sign him?
The best word I've seen used to describe this proposal is "smokescreen". That's all it is. The NHLPA knows that once you get past the surface of the deal, it's not really that good of a deal, but because the average fan won't dig deep into the proposal and are fixated on the 24% cut, they'll side with the players.