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Old 11-30-2004, 07:28 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by Carlton
Seems with your method, players might be eerily underperforming or too consistent

Take Hornsby for example...

Rajah started off STRONG...then slowly tailed down in limited duty in order to get his high BA and low cumlative stats

Ty Cobb did as well...with an average would these two ever hit .400?

Therein lies the problem...and Babe Ruth is the most notable. When he becomes a RF FT he is past the OOTP 'normal' reasoning of improving his skills, and for a number of people...Ruth never becomes the HR King.
Normalizing Ruth would do exactly that...no 60 HRs, no .390 average...no 15 triples.

And using career averages Cobb 'might' get .370 BA potential, very rare would he go above that...and more than likely later in his career, if he has one...he will decline so that his career BA would be lower than .350

Then there are guys that have always been a problem...Koufax, Carlton, Feller, Haines, Grimes...pitchers that hung on too long but had 12 good seasons...they would be footnotes. Or guys like Flick, Bo Jackson, Albert Belle, Addie Joss that never had a decline becoming better than everyone else.

Then there is one of Ankit's big problems....the weird guys who started slow and then had huge upswings...meaning you have to change their ratings when they come in and up their talent...and then hope they live up to them, if they are young enough.

Also fielding is a terrible problem in both DB's Maranville comes in with an 11 in SS range? Pie Traynor a 20? Seems the really great defensive players come in with lousy defensive range in both DB's because technically, if taking just RF into account from BBref...Rabbitt Maranville had 110 range at SS

PLUS, it is important NOT to take a players decline and just their prime into account in regards to defense...because defense really gets hit hard and declines rapidly when a player hits 35
The thing is, those problems are inherent in OOTP as well. If you import from Lahman, his potentials are based on his career averages, not his career peaks. There won't be any difference in talent ratings between mine and Lahman's.

Fielding isn't handled well by OOTP either. It's not a problem with the databases.
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