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Old 09-18-2004, 04:31 PM   #31
Henry
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mats,

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Retribution? So simply demanding that somebody give me WHAT I HAVE PAID HIM MONEY FOR is asking for retribution???? Cut the crap, Henry, and get off the high horse. We want what we were promised when we gave Markus our ****ing money. Don't give me this "you guys and you're retribution!" bull****.
Another difference between you and I. I won't resort to cursing because I'm angry....

Ok... so what, exactly, is the issue?

From what you stated above, and from what I read in most posts, is "give me what I paid for". Right?

Does anyone actually think Markus has no intention of giving you what you paid for? Does anyone actually think there won't be an update as promised, and does anyone actually think that he won't give H2H every effort possible to get it into V6?

If you really don't think he is intending to do so, then I have to believe you've let your emotions get ahead of your wisdom.

If you DO believe he will do these things, THEN the issue is your not happy because you don't have them NOW. If we accept that as true, then folks like yourself are not going to be happy even when he does release the update... and if that's true, then what chance does Markus have in regaining your support?

It seems as if the issue is that 6 months is too long to wait for the final version of OOTP6 - yet every previous version took 5-6 months to complete all the patches and updates. So what makes V6 different?

The pattern V6 has followed (other than the late initial release) is pretty much the same pattern all other versions of OOTP followed... at least since V3 when I came on board. Each version has had it's major problems that had to be corrected, V5 included.

Mats, I'm not on any "high horse". I'm simply stating that V6 is being handled pretty much the same as earlier versions. Each version Markus followed through with most of the fixes and an update which added a new feature. Rarely did he fail (financial coefficient as an example).

V6 will be completed, probably around playoff time. At that time, per expectation, bugs will be fixed, and H2H will be added. Will it be perfect? No, but it will be as promised. Will everyone be happy? I doubt it.

So, just to cover this, what happens if Markus can't get H2H included? What if the issues cannot be resolved in time? Does everyone start this cavalcade of complaints again?

Look, as I said when I was part of the staff, I have nothing to gain or lose by stating my opnion. It is not "party line". It is simply what I believe. I think OOTP is a great game. I also think it has some flaws. I ALSO think Markus will remain digilent to fix them as he can.

But I also think as customers, we have two choices. (1) Demand perfection, or at least demand that anything announced be completed on time and correctly - or (2) be satisfied with Markus doing his best to make the best baseball simulation available and help him in accomplishing that.

I choose the second option. Oh, and there is a third option - don't buy it.

Last edited by Henry; 09-18-2004 at 04:34 PM.
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