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JAttractive · 07-22-2002, 08:54 PM

Actually I think it is far simpler than all this (I am not 100% sure on what I am about to say but I am VERY confident on this)...

From what I have read the PBP does *not* accurately play out the results and is only their for flavour. What you read in text should not be taken literally, beyond the actual results. I believe the game randomly/selectively takes from a list of results each play, simply to make things seem more real. While the choices of text are based on the statistically decided outcome the actual play read out is just a random selection from that list.

Using your play as an example:

Colon vs. Smoltz

The result for this at bat is already determined to be a fly out to left field AND it is determined the runner will score based on the arm of the outfielder, speed of the runner and a random algorithm (likely the game does not even decide whether a throw is made or not but simply compares a number of different variables into an equation, that would include arm strength, and a result of "run scored" was determined) AND it is determined the runners will not move up a base NOR will any errors occur. Note that this is already determined, the whole play's *results* in its entirety. The game then randomly chooses plays based on the results to give us something to imagine.

So it may be something like this:

1. Give text for fly ball to left field, no error on catch.

a. Easy fly out to left field OR
b. It's a shot to left field.... Caught by Ordonez! What a play! OR
c. It's a sinking liner in to the gap... Wow what a catch by Ordonez!
etc.

Computer randomly chooses A.

2. Give text for failure to throw out runner, no error, runners fail to move up.

a. Ordonez with a throw home... this will be close... SAFE! Wow I don't think that was an accurate call.... The runners fail to advance.
b. Ordonez catches the ball but their will be no throw home....Runners at 1st and 2nd still.
c. Ordonez catches the ball and throws home... not even close!... The runners fail to advance on the throw.
etc.

Computer randomly chooses B.

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So while it may look like you got "screwed" what occured was that you were given the fair results of the outcome but the text semi-randomly applied was unfortunately "choosen". You could have easily been given something more palatable such as "Its a sinking liner to the gap in left field... Wow what a catch by Ordonez!... He throws home... But it is too late to get Jones... Run scored, runners remain at 1st and 2nd". Same results, just reads nicer for the situation.

Just remember that PBP is only flavour to the game and nothing else. It is text applied to a result and then mixed and matched to give it variety.

All that matters is the results

07-22-2002, 08:54 PM	#10
JAttractive All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Catharines, Ontario Posts: 1,135	Actually I think it is far simpler than all this (I am not 100% sure on what I am about to say but I am VERY confident on this)... From what I have read the PBP does not accurately play out the results and is only their for flavour. What you read in text should not be taken literally, beyond the actual results. I believe the game randomly/selectively takes from a list of results each play, simply to make things seem more real. While the choices of text are based on the statistically decided outcome the actual play read out is just a random selection from that list. Using your play as an example: Colon vs. Smoltz The result for this at bat is already determined to be a fly out to left field AND it is determined the runner will score based on the arm of the outfielder, speed of the runner and a random algorithm (likely the game does not even decide whether a throw is made or not but simply compares a number of different variables into an equation, that would include arm strength, and a result of "run scored" was determined) AND it is determined the runners will not move up a base NOR will any errors occur. Note that this is already determined, the whole play's results in its entirety. The game then randomly chooses plays based on the results to give us something to imagine. So it may be something like this: 1. Give text for fly ball to left field, no error on catch. a. Easy fly out to left field OR b. It's a shot to left field.... Caught by Ordonez! What a play! OR c. It's a sinking liner in to the gap... Wow what a catch by Ordonez! etc. Computer randomly chooses A. 2. Give text for failure to throw out runner, no error, runners fail to move up. a. Ordonez with a throw home... this will be close... SAFE! Wow I don't think that was an accurate call.... The runners fail to advance. b. Ordonez catches the ball but their will be no throw home....Runners at 1st and 2nd still. c. Ordonez catches the ball and throws home... not even close!... The runners fail to advance on the throw. etc. Computer randomly chooses B. --------- So while it may look like you got "screwed" what occured was that you were given the fair results of the outcome but the text semi-randomly applied was unfortunately "choosen". You could have easily been given something more palatable such as "Its a sinking liner to the gap in left field... Wow what a catch by Ordonez!... He throws home... But it is too late to get Jones... Run scored, runners remain at 1st and 2nd". Same results, just reads nicer for the situation. Just remember that PBP is only flavour to the game and nothing else. It is text applied to a result and then mixed and matched to give it variety. All that matters is the results Last edited by JAttractive; 07-22-2002 at 09:06 PM.