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Carlton · 06-15-2004, 10:43 PM

One thing I was looking into the pitchers you named and was wondering one thing Big Train

Do you have it set up to base their talent on their whole career?

If so I can see why these guys might not fare so well, they came in strong and had a enlongated decline period...moreso than most players

So statiscally speaking they have a greater chance of not living up to their career value. Because they will decline eventually...and from a lower plateau then when they came in. Now if you imported them from their first year...they have a better chance of coming close to their peak value.

However, either some players will falter who succeeded (fast start long decline) using career value and some might never be if using first year (Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson)

Sort of a catch 22

Anyway just a thought that maybe that could be while these individuals might be underachieving...check batters that had a long decline like Johnny Evers, or George McBride see if they ever amounted to anything

06-15-2004, 10:43 PM	#60
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	One thing I was looking into the pitchers you named and was wondering one thing Big Train Do you have it set up to base their talent on their whole career? If so I can see why these guys might not fare so well, they came in strong and had a enlongated decline period...moreso than most players So statiscally speaking they have a greater chance of not living up to their career value. Because they will decline eventually...and from a lower plateau then when they came in. Now if you imported them from their first year...they have a better chance of coming close to their peak value. However, either some players will falter who succeeded (fast start long decline) using career value and some might never be if using first year (Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson) Sort of a catch 22 Anyway just a thought that maybe that could be while these individuals might be underachieving...check batters that had a long decline like Johnny Evers, or George McBride see if they ever amounted to anything __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!"