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Old 06-15-2004, 04:59 PM   #50
Joshv02
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Originally posted by KurtBevacqua
If you look at the career numbers for two guys only one year apart in age, Lopez is way above Posada. (edit)…

Posada career: 135 HR, 526 RBI, .849 OPS
Lopez career: 214 HR, 694 RBI, .839 OPS

By 162 game AVG career:
Posada: 25 HR, 98 RBI, .270 BA
Lopez: 30 HR, 97 RBI, .287 BA

Lopez is clearly the better slugger, Posada has a slight edge in OPS (thanks to significantly higher OBP, but much lower SLG) . In fact, the only aspect to offensive performance you can cleary give to Posada is OBP (.375 to .337). (edit)…

While your subjective, personal opinion is that Posada is a better player, the career numbers, as they stand right this moment, clearly suggest Lopez has better qualifications for the Hall (not that he is necessarily Hall worthy, just more Hall worthy).
I think you are missing a large element here.

Posada is the better player per his rate stats.

.270/.375/.474 (JP)
vs.
.287/.337/.502 (JL)

The ISO is about the same: .204 vs. 215. So, they have virtually no difference in power.

The question, for the rate stats, is if the extra .017 points of batting average (much of which is made up of singles) makes up for the huge 038 difference in OBA. It does not.

If you weight OBA at 1.5 times SLG, Posada has a weighted OPS of 1.037. Lopez? 1.008. Edge, Posada (and I think the OBA is worth more than 1.5 times SLG).

For total career numbers, Posada clearly lacks. But, there is a good, *objective* argument that Posada is the “better” hitter.
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