[Malleus Dei]

Originally posted by mking55
I'll make this simple so that you (and those similar to you) can perhaps understand it.

Well, up yours, you gaping abyss of ignorance.

You know absolutely nothing about development and either the proper way to do it, or the best way to do it.

LOL, what a pathetically wrong assumption. I have been programming since 1971. The list of PC computer baseball games I have beta tested and/or contributed to is essentially the Hall of Fame list, and it includes OOTP.

Documentation and programming go hand in hand, even in a 1-man show.

Bullcrap. A well-designed application doesn't need a manual, and that's an aphorism in the programming community. You need references on that?

The lame reasoning suggested by you (and others) does a disservice to the whole community and says, "Be second rate because we worship whatever you do".

No, it says "The manual is a low priority item." Learn to read.

I don't understand you people who have 'excuses' for everything that is wrong.

1. It's not "wrong." It's a wise choice.

2. That was an explanation, not an excuse. Did you flunk reading comprehension?

I wonder if it is the same way you conduct yourselves in life. I guess we will never know.

Son, I'll tell you right now: yes, I also routinely assign low priority items a low priority. This is how intelligent adults manage things.

That is part one of the manual discussion.

That was not a "discussion." This was just you spouting pure ignorance.

Part 2 which obviously went over your head is the sarcastic comment I made in reply to a post by the person who said he was writing the manual. He said it should be available by the end of the weekend and that was 2 weekends ago.

You couldn't go over my head if you had a plane, son. They just released the patch yesterday. If you had been paying attention then you would have seen that the 6.02 patch took longer than anticipated. That rolled the whole OOTP schedule back. Pay attention if you are going to whine about things.

Did he come back on and say, "Oops, I was wrong. It is taken me much longer than I hoped for". No, of course not.

There were plenty of comments about how the patch was taking longer than expected. You appear to have missed all of them. Shame on you

The S.O.P. (Standard Operating Procedure), around here (and I am not just talking manual) seems to make a claim, perhaps put a promise time period on it, and maybe it will appear and maybe it won't.

Now that's just a damned flat lie. A time estimate is made, and the product is released as soon as it's been tested and is ready. As an old-time OOTP (and Earl Weaver, and Tony LaRussa, and so on) beta tester, let me tell you that sometimes testing takes less time than you think it will but sometimes unexpected things crop up and it takes a lot longer than anyone anticipated or wanted. The OOTP priority has always been to get things done RIGHT, and not just shovel something out the damned door, and that's the right philosophy.

We have our army of fanboys to make our excuses for us, and just be grateful for what you have.

I'm not anybody's damned fanboy. Whenever Markus has screwed up - which is a damned rare event - I've been all over his case. Overall, Markus' record is nothing less than outstanding.

This operation gets shoddier by the day (OOTP Baseball, not to be confused with their excellent boxing product).

No, it's you who get shoddier by the minute. OOTP has improved steadily since Version 1 (yes, I was here in those days). Things keep getting BETTER.

And it is people like you who encourage this to happen by not having any standards or expectations.

My standards and expectations are for a consistently better OOTP. Markus consistently meets or exceeds them, and his priorities (patches and updates before manuals) are the correct ones.

It is people like me (and there are many more like me who just can't be bothered banging their heads against the wall by posting), who are annoyed by it

Frankly, I don't give a damn. Markus has his priorities straight: the game first, and all trivialities second. If you don't understand why he does it that way, then there's no help for you.

Before you do this again, try real hard to get your facts straight. So far your whines have been not only pathetic but just flat ignorant.