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kq76 perhaps you can provide what "baseball people" actually go to the opposite extreme?
As far as I know, extreme cautious measures are only applied to low minors.
And the point about Mazzone is, since the way he'd pull a pitcher is just the same as a counting device, why wouldn't every team install a counting device?
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