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Old 04-20-2004, 09:07 PM   #37
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Originally posted by Henry
Your right. I did assume, and I shouldn't have. As long as this discussion has been going on you start to believe everyone has read what you have

Take a look at futility-infielder.com (I don't have the exact link handy) for more info. You'll find dozens of links there that go over the details

PS; Cyclone listed the link above !!

Henry
Also, for anybody with a copy of Bill James' New Historical Baseball Abstract, James goes into some detail on his opinions of DIPS on pages 885-888. While I'm not going to retype all of what James stated, he did offer four key points of which he later dived into more detail. Those four points:

1. Like most things, McCracken's argument can be taken too literally. A pitcher does have *some* input into the hits/innings ratio behind him, other than that which is reflected in the home run and strikeout columns.
2. With that qualification, I am quite certain that McCracken is correct.
3. This knowledge is significant, very useful.
4. I feel stupid for not having realized this 30 years ago.

- Bill James in The New Bill James Historical Abstract, Page 885.
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