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Rocco Del Sesto · 12-23-2003, 03:36 PM

As I mentioned I'm pretty new and raw at this "art" or science which ever you wish to call it, of rating fighters. I got interested into boxing through title bout actually. When I purchased TF2001 that's when I became intrigued more with the ratings and trying to rate additional fighters. My interest right now is to expand the HW's as mentioned. I don't have much as far as historical data to back anything up. I have a couple books is all on boxing history. I try to do some searching on the internet on a fighter. That is in fact how I found out Zech was a Lefty. Found something somewhere on that. So to start rating a guy, I look him up on BoxRec and compare his record and who he's boxed and look for someone already rated that looks something like a similar record and competition. That's what I've done with the guys thus far who I've posted here. Now I'm starting with the play testing to do some statistical comparison to better fine tune things.

I've started with Zech and have run off 200 bouts with him against the HW's of his time from 1967-1970 time period I've used in the scheduler. The results I got show that I do have some things to adjust. To show you some results and maybe you all can suggest needed changes(again, I'm raw and just learning this).

Record
Actual 36-11-3-22KO 72% W% Replay 102-90-8-53KO 51% W%

KO% Actual 44% Replay 26.5%
KO's Suffered Actual 5 for 10% Replay 51 for 25.5%
Ave Rounds for KO Actual 5.1 Replay 5.8
Ave Rounds suffered KO Actual 3.6 Replay 5.4
Ave Rounds/fight Actual 6.3 Replay 7.6
KO/TKO's Actual 15/7 Replay 30/23

Now looking at this you would assume some adjustment needed. Question I have that some of you all might help me with is, these replays are done against the higher crop of fighters during his time. All fighters you look at the records, they're fattened up especially early in a fighter's career against the "lower class". Probably a higher percentage of quicker fights, more KO's against those "lower class" fighters that we don't have the luxery of having rating in TBCB to play test against. Any suggestion on how to account for that when thinking about adjusting records.?

12-23-2003, 03:36 PM	#31
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,166	As I mentioned I'm pretty new and raw at this "art" or science which ever you wish to call it, of rating fighters. I got interested into boxing through title bout actually. When I purchased TF2001 that's when I became intrigued more with the ratings and trying to rate additional fighters. My interest right now is to expand the HW's as mentioned. I don't have much as far as historical data to back anything up. I have a couple books is all on boxing history. I try to do some searching on the internet on a fighter. That is in fact how I found out Zech was a Lefty. Found something somewhere on that. So to start rating a guy, I look him up on BoxRec and compare his record and who he's boxed and look for someone already rated that looks something like a similar record and competition. That's what I've done with the guys thus far who I've posted here. Now I'm starting with the play testing to do some statistical comparison to better fine tune things. I've started with Zech and have run off 200 bouts with him against the HW's of his time from 1967-1970 time period I've used in the scheduler. The results I got show that I do have some things to adjust. To show you some results and maybe you all can suggest needed changes(again, I'm raw and just learning this). Record Actual 36-11-3-22KO 72% W% Replay 102-90-8-53KO 51% W% KO% Actual 44% Replay 26.5% KO's Suffered Actual 5 for 10% Replay 51 for 25.5% Ave Rounds for KO Actual 5.1 Replay 5.8 Ave Rounds suffered KO Actual 3.6 Replay 5.4 Ave Rounds/fight Actual 6.3 Replay 7.6 KO/TKO's Actual 15/7 Replay 30/23 Now looking at this you would assume some adjustment needed. Question I have that some of you all might help me with is, these replays are done against the higher crop of fighters during his time. All fighters you look at the records, they're fattened up especially early in a fighter's career against the "lower class". Probably a higher percentage of quicker fights, more KO's against those "lower class" fighters that we don't have the luxery of having rating in TBCB to play test against. Any suggestion on how to account for that when thinking about adjusting records.?