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Old 07-27-2025, 06:41 PM   #4
Jason Moyer
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Ichiro is a first ballot HOFer in my mind without question, but the things that people say about him always puzzle me. Yeah he had 262 hits in 2004, but he still got on base less than Bobby Abreu and had an OPS 100 points lower. His case for being a better player than someone like Abreu was his defense and baserunning, not his hitting. Actually, Abreu stole 5 more stolen bases with 6 fewer times caught that year, so it's basically his defense that would make me rank him ahead.
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