[Mancandy]

Originally Posted by twins_34

I am not arguing, I was stating a fact and fixing a misconception of what was said about the Browns and Ravens. Also, they consider what happened to the Arizona Coyotes and Utah to be very similar to what happened between the Browns and the Ravens.

So Utah, like the Ravens, became an expansion team and Arizona (Old Winnipeg Jets) has been deactivated for the time being.

That being said, I will now bow out because, editing game files could cause issues and I for sure do not want to be the blame of you losing a long term save if something gets corrupted. But, stating facts and fixing someone's error, my man, is not arguing. Just saying. Maybe what Lands said could work.

I think the issue is there was no misconception and you didn't fix anything, you just restated exactly what the person you were replying to said with a little more (unnecessary and irrelevant) context. So phrasing it in a way that makes it sound like you're correcting them, and then falsely claiming you "fixed a misconception" when you did no such thing, sounds like arguing. (Arguing over what is and isn't arguing is some next level irony, though.)

Originally Posted by 84Cubs

Not sure what you’re arguing. This was recently done in the NHL with the coyotes being sold and moved to become a new team in SLC with the old nickname being abandoned. The Sonics history moved to OKC but i believe the city owns the name. What i want to do is unprecedented in the way i want to do it, but this is OOTP. I could see something like i want to do being argued once Seattle gets the sonics back.

Also, your example of the nationals claiming the history of the senators or the brewers claiming when the orioles were in milwaukee isn’t exactly applicable to what I’m talking about.

Even doing it exactly the way you want is not unprecedented, it sounds like you're describing exactly what the NBA did with the Charlotte Hornets and New Orleans Pelicans. The Charlotte Hornets entered the NBA in 1988-89, then relocated and became the New Orleans Hornets starting in 2002-03 and took their entire history with them. An expansion team was granted to Charlotte to start in 2004-05 named the Bobcats with none of the original Hornets' history, which was still in New Orleans. Then the New Orleans Hornets renamed themselves the Pelicans in 2013, the Charlotte Bobcats became the Hornets in 2014, and Pelicans gave the history of the original Hornets from their Charlotte days back to Charlotte. So the NBA retroactively made the New Orleans franchise an expansion team that started in 2002 and the Charlotte franchise from 1998-2002 and 2004-present is now considered the same franchise.

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

I can't think of a way to do it in a forward running save. For historical, the Franchise ID (franchID) in the Teams.csv file ties the team iterations together and that file is editable.

Is there anything else that ties them together? I just tried changing the franchID for the Montreal Expos seasons to see if it would separate their records from the Nationals but it looks like they're still showing up in Washington's history...