Thread: Pitcher WAR
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Old 01-27-2025, 10:18 PM   #1
turtle4499
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Pitcher WAR

Pitcher WAR is not correct at all. Currently this results in it being a complete noob trap and absolutely crushes the AI's ability to play the game.


I wrote a long ranty post about it on reddit because people keep suggesting new players to use it.



List of issues I know about:

  • Uses non FIP park factors for park adjustment
    • No idea why this is a thing but easy to verify change your parks doubles rate and WAR, FIP-, and ERA+ all change. Only ERA+ should be changing.
  • Uses park adjustment at the season level instead of game level
    • Seriously go look at player home vs away splits for Rockies it is completely insane.
    • Editing your park makes your players home and away war change. This is not done in real life you can inspect any players splits on fangraphs and easily verify this. I guess it may have been done 20 years ago in 2006.
    • This may be close enough for hitters but it creates systematic biasing for pitchers.
  • Uses a FIP calculation that ignore in game calculation method.
    • FIP dramatically over represents K% effect on outcomes. In real life K's prevent HRs in OOTP they do not.
    • Sidenote can we please let K% come before HR calc in order of operations it so odd that you can hit a HR without k% being checked at all.
  • Uses FIP
    • The game allows pitchers to impact BABIP why is the game using a FIP based WAR? It makes no sense that both of these things are true.
  • Doesn't use the full WAR formula for dynamic run environment that starters have.
    • (May be wrong on this one so please correct me if I am)
This and hitter WAR have no excuse to be so broken in a game that is about stats at its core. It is extremely problematic to have them be so wrong when they effect player happiness and contract demands.
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