[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by BaseballMan

So no team has made the playoffs with a bad qb?

Never said that. But it is exceedingly difficult. And it gets even harder in this day & age because of the dominance of analytics.

Guess the 2011 Broncos with Tebow was just my imagination.

A fluke & you know it. You really expect a QB throwing less than 50% is a minor hurdle? They made it cause the entire AFC West was medicore to the nth power.

Shouldn't a good head coach being able to produce wins with what you have?

No. A great one might keep a poorly manned team competitive. But expect them to approach.500?

You must not have not watch many Raiders games this year if you think AP has made much progress as a head coach.

Who wants to watch the Raiders? I suffered enough having to watch the Panthers.

You seem to be of the opinion I think Antonio Pierce is good. Never once claimed that. I'm saying you cant give chef a bunch of veggies & get mad steak ain't on your plate. Who saw Minshew & O'Connel in the QB room & thought Vegas was playoff bound????????? We all knew it would end badly. It has nothing to do w/Pierce. I looked @ Saints & said no playoff. Had nothing to do with the coach. It had to do w/the roster. Said the same about Miami. Had nothing to do with the coach. Had to do w/a fragile QB. Titans. Colts. Shocked the Vikes made it w/Darnold. But that is a rare one.

You could give AP control of every decision and the Raiders would do no better.

Maybe not. Like I said, my statement had nothing to do with Pierce. I wouldn't expect any coach to turn those 2 into a playoff QB. Pierce may indeed stink. Not arguing that point. I withhold judgement on his coaching ability when his management doesn't stock the locker room.