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Originally Posted by holes573
First of all, the OOTP25 manual defines ratings as a measure of "player ability." So, that sounds like a measure of overall quality to me.
Nevertheless, let me give you more detail on the 26 pitchers in this Bad Pitcher category. Here are some average stats on this group:
Average current rating (100% accurate): 39
Average projected WAR: 1.0
Average ERA at end of season: 4.75 (Overall league ave. = 3.80)
Average Win-Loss record at end of season: 4W-8L
And here's a couple typical examples, one a bit above average for the category (40 rating) and one a bit below average for the category (38 rating):
 
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Like said in other posts, going by overall is not the end all in how to rate a player. Another thing said is that in OOTP 25, control seems to be very heavily weighted when it comes to pitchers so a pitcher with 70 control and very little stuff is going to be rated quite high compared to a pitcher with 70 stuff and 40 control.
Now I have been starting players like some you listed in an online league and they have their good days and bad days. They have their times they win by one run and days they get totally shelled.
Now in 2023, I would not play that 35 year old but in1966 where stamina does not matter as much, sure I would have him as a 4th or 5th. He is a pretty average pitcher, except for that low stamina, but once again in 1966, not as big of a deal.
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Originally Posted by holes573
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Originally Posted by holes573
I don't think there should be much doubt that the starters in this category should be as lower quality.
But, the big picture is that there are 26 starters in this group. If someone else might categorize a couple of them on the higher end of the Bad category into the Medium category, and a couple in the Medium category get categorized into the Bad group - it won't matter much at all. The Bad group have essentially the same frequency of good days as those in the higher categories.
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And I do have to agree with darkcloud that, this game is not a guarantee that because you are going up against a 38 overall pitcher that you are going to shell them. Even some of the worst pitchers in history have won games. That's why it seems OOTP plays more to real life. If this game was predictive to the point you knew what games you were going to win or lose, then what's the point of playing it? This game seems to simulate real life pretty good. But, also with your data points, you have to consider what the type of batters they went up against. Now, if they were all superstar players, then I would consider your data to be concerning, but if the ranges of batters are 38 overall to 70 or so overall, then I would say there is not much of an issue.