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Old 04-16-2024, 12:30 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by Brad K View Post
Your first paragraph admits LTMs over ride strategy settings.

My example is not of the millions of ways to set up a historical league but rather that with everything historical, lineups, retire, etc, the ratings cannot produce historical output without thrice tested and adjusted LTMs. And also that when things aren't set exactly historical that LTMs over ride those settings instead of allowing plausibly alternate output.




That was contradicted by Matt before you posted.





Right in this thread, before your post, Matt stated a goal to not have LTMs and also that he considers the effort most of the way there. Do you think the devs can't do that?
He did not say his goal was to not have LTMs. He said..

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold View Post
the goal is to make sure that LTM don't really need to come in to play other than just some fine tuning around the edges.
That's not removing them, is it? I then simply said I liked what Matt was saying.

Would you like to hear the first conspiracy theory if LTM's were to disappear?
They are still there, just hidden under the hood, with autocalc also being run under the hood. "The users will never figure it out. We are just too damn smart!" followed by an "evil laugh".



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Originally Posted by Brad K View Post
You are using the animation of the play to say what the game engine did. In reality it is clear that the animation is not an accurate representation of what the game engine did. Of course, it feels "right" to remove a pitcher who just gave up a pair of warning track fly outs with the idea he is losing it.
I am?
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Originally Posted by Sweed
and creates a video that represents that play. Sure we may find fault with how the play is shown as the 3d continues to be a WIP (whether one likes it or not).
I literally said the game creates a video that represents the result of the play, and the play comes from where? The engine. I also noted that the 3d is a WIP and we may find fault in how the play is shown. I honestly have no idea if you only skimmed my post or ignored the content?

With regard to the 3d I can only say, if you play out a game and have never seen a gb to ss and thought "DP" only to see the runner from first is already to close to 2b for a play to be made you must not be watching. This happens not just for the AI team, but also for my team, with baserunning set to AI, meaning the AI started that runner, not me.

My original point of coming into the thread was to show the AI does use H&R, for both AI teams and human teams (something you claimed it does not do) with AI controlled baserunning.
Your answer, as I read it, seemed to at least give credence to my explanation. However you said something about the pbp doesn't say "the runner goes". My reply is above in an earlier post, but the general thought is the pbp doesn't go into detail for many things.

If you remove a P because he gave up a pair of flyballs to the track because it's a sign he's losing it, I don't know what to say. It's not something I'd ever do, but feel free to manage how you manage.




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Originally Posted by Brad K View Post
LTMs are what allowed realistic performances for the era with random debut, and allows the 1927 Yankees to play in 1968. And your following quote of Matt shows a desire to get rid of them, not that they are essential. I quoted Matt's statement above in response to Garlon so I won't requote in here.
As stated above he does not say there is a goal to "get rid of them".


At the end of the day v26 will not be a data update only. The masses would revolt even more than they do now, even if/when there is a big under the hood update. As they also do if there is a big update we can see. According to many, no matter what they do, the only thing a new version brings is a "roster update".
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