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Old 04-10-2024, 06:40 PM   #35
md40022
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Originally Posted by StratMan View Post
And this is why game issues like this persist season after season. This one goes back to at least version 19 and most likely a lot longer than that.

This isn't just about gawdy SB numbers. It is about the entire strategic aspect of playing out a game rather than simming it.

I agree with you on Take Pitch. I don't use it because there is no real game strategic reason to use it. Even taking 3-0 doesn't change the AB, so why bother with it? As far as I'm concerned, the button should be removed.

As I've already demonstrated, Run & Hit is entirely a cheat code. You should never be able to Run & Hit with the same percentage as Steal Base and always get the jump. Double steal is entirely a cheat code. You should never be able to double steal with a guaranteed attempt on one pitch with same percentage as Steal Base. Should no one use them ever? And if you do use them rarely (but in a critical situation), isn't that still a cheat code?

I can create house rules to only attempt to steal once or twice per plate appearance, but is that too much or too little? If I only attempt on pitch out counts, will that yield too many CS? If I don't use run & hit because it is a cheat, will I get too many DPs where strategically it can and should be used on 2-2 or 3-2 counts with 0 or 1 out?

House rules help limit game systems that don't reflect reality, but there should be no reason why the game system can't be updated to more accurately reflect the tradeoffs of real strategic in game moves. Like I said, StratOMatic had a better system in the 1970s with the clumsiness of a tabletop game. There is no reason a computer sim can't reflect this properly.

If this is in-fact the cheat code that you say it is, where you can just R&H all day long and steal 1000000 bases a season and average 7+ runs per game but yet you continue to use the cheat code with the frequency that you do ----- it kind of waters down any issue that you claim to have with the problem though. No?


If this is legitimately as broken as you say it is, wouldn't you implement some limitations on it. Maybe limit how many times a game you use it. Or limit it to practical situations where it would be used in real life, or something.


Saying that it's broken and that it is a way to beat the game, yet willingly entering said cheat code every time it is remotely possible to do so is kind of talking out of both sides of your mouth. I guess I'm a little confused with how you say that it's a bad thing, but then you also have 300+ steals 40 games into the season. It's like saying steroids are bad while there's a syringe in your arm at the same time.

Last edited by md40022; 04-10-2024 at 07:31 PM.
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