Thanks - the oval idea comes from these
Devil Rays logos, I tried it both cut off like the ones above, and full. I tired fitting all the text in, or having it extend off the oval like the rays, but I ended up just having it floating outside the cut-off oval.
I'm not sure its done yet, I might go look for a more skewed/sideways horse crab crab image, and also now that I looked at those devil rays logos I'd like to do one of my own
