[Samueltbaum]

Originally Posted by dishnet34

You keep talking about "codes from streamers," and I'd like to correct you on this - our affiliate streamers, nor the OOTP Twitch, do not give out "codes" related to Perfect Team whatsoever.

I think you might be confusing this with Drops, where if someone watches a stream for a certain amount of time, they get packs for the game. For what it's worth, barring special events, this is limited to 5 or 6 packs a day for watching an affiliate, and if the OOTP channel is going, an additional 5 or 6 from a separate campaign. These are open to anyone who has a Twitch account, links their OOTP account to Twitch, and watches a stream.

Now, granted, I am working on creating a list for PT25 of these affiliate streamers so that there's a handy list available for those that do want to watch their streams - they all have excellent content related to not just PT, but the base game as well.

But, I will say, there are no "codes" related to PT that these streamers are giving away. Just wanted to clear the air on that.

Thanks for clarifying, Props to you for creating the list, I think it will help people succeed. To reclarify, I don't see any harm done by any of the things I've discussed discussed and want know rules to change. But personally don't do any of them to benefit myself.

My whole discussion thought at this point is how people see someone purposefully dropping to a lower league (sticking to the normal game play) is viewed as evil, but twitch streamers (going outside the course of normal gameplay) manipulating the game isn't when there is a clear rule that states it is.

This was posted by quizkid, I assume its valid since they used it to explain why players who purposefully drop to a lower league is considered cheating. I saw it, and understood the is a written rule that states it is cheating, but so is twitch streamers giving out 3000 packs a year.

(d) Deliberately manipulate, outside the course of normal gameplay, the game's economy or the economy of any game-related marketplace in a manner intended to gain a financial or competitive advantage.

Perfect team is a great game, I enjoy it greatly, and want no rules to change. Im simply interested on how some rules are allowed to be bent to help players succeed outside of the standard gameplay, and nobody see's a problem with it. Twitch is an not standard gameplay, it is a great avenue for people to learn I gather, that gives players who watch it a huge advantage over those who don't.

Now I believe missions are instrumental to help players move up leagues. But its much easier to complete those missions if you get 12 packs a day from Twitch, and whatever from TOPPS (two outside sources from the gameplay).

Think of how much harder a player has to work to stick to solely the gameplay of Perfect team (not using an outside source) to succeed in a league against teams that got their cards because they watched twitch. In a league where a team is average, it is a grind to accumulate PP to help buy new players to help improve team. A twitch watcher doesn't need to grind, they simply have to watch a stream, gain their packs and use in their team or to help accomplish missions, or simply to sell to gain extra PP.

As for codes, with a little research I found that TOPPS drops codes. Don't know what they do as I've never used them, which likely gives more free packs to people.

Thanks for your post. I enjoy discussion to help learn/present different perspectives.