Quote:
Originally Posted by bdawg
Anyone else annoyed that the game has assigned good value to Deadball era hitters? (at least some that perform decently well in Gold and below). Nobody from the Deadball era should have 100+ power. I scientifically understand trying to mathematically normalize era performance, but realistically it should never happen. There are only a couple of players who emerged from the Deadball era into the 1920s and actually started hitting for power - Babe Ruth of course comes to mind. But it's more an extreme outlier in the stats pool than the norm. Folks like Tris Speaker, etc. should not have >100 power, as even in the 1920s they never hit for power.
|
I don't have a problem with it as far as the specific example goes - most of the deadball cards don't actually have a lot of power, but the ones that do would probably have cracked 40+ homers with the modern baseball and bat and fields. Hitting 10 HRs in those old ballparks with that bat and ball they used took a lot of power, that's why Tris Speaker led the MLB in 1912 with only 10 HRs. They were strong, they had power, it was just a different game with different tools. I like the normalization over eras myself.
I would like to see an endgame Babe Ruth card; every year they release a Babe Ruth that is one of the best card in the game or a little while, but I don't remember getting one that stays on the roster at the end of the cycle - and they should give us that, since he's arguably the greatest hitter of all-time, certainly has the greatest hitting seasons/stats of all-time along with Bonds (who they don't have the license for).
Quote:
Originally Posted by bdawg
Other thoughts: Why the heck is the Lou Boudreau bbref card so good offensively? The guy only hit .300 twice. Also, why is there no great Ty Cobb card? The guy only had 3 .400+ seasons and flirted with .400 another 5 seasons.
|
As far as Boudreau goes, like most cards, it's for a specific year - 1948 - and he was an offensive monster that year. He hit .355 with 18 HRs, 6 triples, 34 doubles and 98 walks and won MVP. And small correction - he hit over .300 four times ('44, '45, '47 and '48) including a batting title in '44.
Concerning Ty Cobb - for the last three years (PT21-PT23), there has been an 'endgame' Ty Cobb card released near the end of the cycle that was basically a must have to compete at the high levels. I am sure we'll be getting another one this year, so the beast-mode Ty Cobb card is definitely coming.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bdawg
The fact that if I start Ted Williams and he only hits .245 just wrecks any of that childhood awe that I would love to feel when playing Perfect Team.
|
When that Ted Williams first dropped, and for a significant time after, he was the BEST hitter in the game against right-handed pitching. Won an MVP for me with 6.8 WAR one year, and had over 5 WAR two other years, over 4 WAR several more years (which is very good for a hitter with no defense in PT). And that was all in Diamond League, so against pretty elite competition.
There still might be another Ted Williams on the way for the endgame, wouldn't surprise me at all. Like you said, the new sets that come out have to continue to raise the bar or else there would be no reason to get them.
Not to say that I don't understand where you're coming from on all this, but I do think these are reasonable explanations for why things are the way they are in the game.