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Old 09-25-2023, 07:16 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by Brad K View Post
I'd really like to know what the license allows OOTP to do that it's not allowed to do without the license. Aside not being able to use team a league logos, what is there? Is the rest like being the Red Sox Official Soft Drink or the Olympics Official Tampon?
It took very little for a league to be removed, and not only removed, but have the game search for and change or remove items from said league a short time ago. There may be ways around some of these things, but finding them here isn't happening and finding them elsewhere isn't easy either.

How do you think the company would respond to a "request" from MLB lawyers? You think they'll spend time and money to challenge MLB or just move on? Precedent says they move on. That means the mod forum here is probably stripped of anything real, same as "that league". Of course users could make their own site independent of "the company". Precedent again says that won't work.

I believe the day they don't have a license is the day they quit making the game.

As to what one gets with the license BIG17EASY covers a lot of it..
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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY View Post
The MLB license allows OOTP to use team names and logos. The MLB Players Association license allows OOTP to use player names and likenesses, which includes all statistical information related to that player, both biographical (age, hometown, etc.) and performance (batting average, ERA, strikeouts, etc.).

A few versions ago, OOTP was contacted by MLB and asked to stop using those things. Fortunately MLB and the MLBPA were willing to negotiate a license deal, so the game was only without those things for a couple weeks, IIRC. Unlike the foreign league that shall not be named that was removed late in the OOTP23 cycle and is likely to never return.
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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY View Post
It's the combination of statistics, plus name, plus biographical info (hometown, birthday, etc.) that adds up to use of that player's likeness. It's not just the statistics on their own. If you use Mike Trout's statistics, but call him Bill Jones with different, but similar biographical info, that would (likely) not require a license from MLBPA.

EDIT: Added "likely" in the last sentence because I don't know how constricting NIL laws and guidelines have become now that it's under the microscope with the NCAA.
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