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Originally Posted by Sweed

To get back on track I'll throw in my observations based on managing every inning of every game with a game imported from v4 all the way to v24.

Pitchers do have on and off days IMHO. I have no idea if that is caused by a modifier before a game or something that is only found out by me and the pitcher in real time.

From my experience in games, situations can "snowball" whether it be a SP or RP, but in the spirit of this thread I'll stick with starters.

Some games that IF hit or error, after two "easy outs" can be the start of it, along with so many other things. Suddenly what should have been a clean inning ends up with runs coming across the plate. The SP comes out for the next inning and never recovers.

Same situation in another game the SP comes out for the next inning and K's the side and gives up nothing the rest of the way.

Like real life I've had guys have that bad inning and recover, and I've had the cruising and crash too. I've seen my SP do it, I've seen the AI's SP do it. I've gone the route of thinking "the ratings will take over and he'll be fine", and he was.
I've gone the same route and the SP was destroyed. Over time I've seen enough to "know"(IMHO) that today just isn't his day.

As one who plays out all of my games I could write page after page of scenarios, good and bad, I've seen. I'm sure anyone here could do the same. Is it random or is there something coded in that causes the ebb and flow?

Me? I do believer there is an in game "confidence" that can go up, down, or crash. Basically a "hot and cold" streak that can develop in real time within a game, and can also carry over into the next performance. These hot and cold streaks can be maintained (hot streak) and overcome (cold streak) within the game, same as real life.

Some can say there's nothing there and it's all placebo and that's fine if that is your opinion. But OOTP's goal is to simulate reality and take us into a baseball universe. That we are here discussing whether the in game streaks are "real" or "imagined" means they have done their job, I think.

I also sim out every at bat and have done it for over 150 seasons, for a long time in real life. I agree with the observations.


But to be more specific, I often see starters come out and mow down 4 perfect innings then in either the 5th or 6th innings, presumably when hitters see pitchers a third time, things go bad. It often starts with a back to back home runs or a walk and a double followed by a single, and then mushrooms. When this happens and a couple of runs go on the board, expect 7-8 runs unless you do something about it.

On the flip side, first inning rallies don't forebode a bad outing. But if the pitcher gives up 3 in the first and 2 in the second it is over. A clean second inning is a sign the train is getting back on the tracks.