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Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr
A larger Charles Barkley w/more explosiveness. How many of those are we going to see?
Point I was making is everybody can't play like everybody else. When Phil Jackson was successful everyone wanted to run the triangle. Triangle was successful cause he had Jordan running it, & then Shaq & Kobe. The key wasn't the style of play. It was the unique players.
You have to get the best players you can & then try to set them up in the best system for them that you can.
That was the secret to "Billy Ball". The metrics helped him hit on it. But the idea was getting the best he could. To find value. Not find what everybody else had.
Timme is a bad defender. But he plays with heart, desires to win, is a team player, finds ways to be effective & has a terrific IQ. That's a guy I want to give a chance. Tshiebwe gets 10 rebounds a game on his day off. Who can't use that? Did anyone see Markquis Nowell run Kansas State in the last tourney? This guy is from the Jason Kidd/Williams mold.
But who gets selected? Marquette's 4th best player. Michigan didn't make the tourney, yet had 2 players selected in the 1st 15. I mean, what are we doing here?
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Everyone you mentioned has been signed to some kind of contract. They will have Summer League, training camp and the pre-season to show what they can do.
If they cannot make the roster from one of these opportunities. Then they can go the G-League as a two way player and continue to try and impress their way onto a roster.
The Heat had several undrafted players contribute last season.
If they have enough talent and some kind of skill set, then chances are they will see NBA playing time at some point.
I see what you are getting at. But I would counter that there is a history of drafting 22 or 23 year old 4 or 5 year seniors in the draft and…it is not good.
Very few of them succeed in any meaningful way.
I am not wishing failure on any player, but I can see the appeal of drafting a 19 year old that has potential and now gets the benefit of unlimited practice time and better coaching, over a 22 year old fourth year senior who many of reached their peak already.
Of course the draft is still a dice roll. I doubt anyone will ever 100% figure it out. But there is a reason a college senior has not been taken #1 since the year 2000 (in a very weak draft)
And that is that most of the time these kids show by age 18 or 19 if they ‘have it or not’
Of course there will be always be late bloomers and players that just never develop.
But for the most part I believe the league does a good job at identifying talent and sooner or later they get their NBA chance.
Is it perfect? Of course not, but I don’t think teams are actively not giving older prospects a chance just to prove a point.
Finding talent is super competitive. Made even more so with this new CBA. Teams are always looking for players who an help on the cheap, no matter the age.
A few of these UDFAs will hit, most will not.
Such is the nature of things.