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Originally posted by marc
National Champions since 1936:
Big 10 - 15
SEC - 12
# of schools that won championships:
Big 10 - 5
SEC - 5
# of schools that won MULTIPLE championships:
Big 10 - 5
SEC - 2
I can't find all-time wins but I gaurentee the big 10 has more in the top 20 then the SEC does.
Is that all u people out there on the left coast can do is complain about east coast bias?? It's a complete joke. Your teams suck plain and simple there is no bias. They play soft schedule and have even softer defenses. Washington state is gonna finish 1st or 2nd in the Pac-10 where as in the big 10 they would be eh 5th??? As a whole the big 10 is so much better then the pac-10 nowadays that it isn't even funny. All u have to do is look at the Washington St. scenario that I just pointed out, that same Washington State team would finish 4th or so in the big east. The ACC isn't much to brag about either but I still doubt they would do better than 3rd. And the SEC they would be below .500 this year in conference.
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First off this is not meant as an insult, take it that way if you wish. There is a letter in the alphabet called a "y". When you come on a message board and use "u" instead of "you" it does nothing but make you look stupid.
Secondly,
1936? I believe this conversation was about how Big-10 football puts me to sleep. Lets take championships in the last 30 years even.
SEC - 7 (I'm not including Clemson's in 1981 when they were a member of the SEC.)
Big 10+1 - 4
Thirdly,
Lets talk soft schedule. I can only assume you're speaking of USC dropping out of number 2 (of course Ohio State dropped out the old fashioned way with a loss. *snaps fingers* Darn.)
Auburn - picked to be in the Top 10 this year, they've had an off-year but not USC's fault. A good team when scheduled. Plus that one was played at Auburn, not an easy place to play.
BYU - Good football team year in/year out. Bad year this year.
Hawaii - Can run with anyone. Have had a BAD year this year but under June Jones they have been pretty good in the past few years.
Notre Dame - Oh yeah, here's a team that is just terrible year in and year out. Who's heard of these guys?
All in all, besides Hawaii I'm not sure how you would call that a soft schedule when scheduled 5 years ago.
Fourthly,
I'm interested on what facts are you basing that Washigton State would finish 4th in the Big-10? Is it the #10 ranking in the BCS? Is it the strength of schedule ranking one above Michigan?
Finally,
Again in the last 30 years, Rose Bowl winners when the Big-10 & Pac-10 go head to head.
Pac-10 - 18 Wins
Big-10 - 11 Wins
Yep you're right the Big-10 is so much better than the Pac-10! Especially when they play head-to-head.
Just because you don't hear conversation about Washington State out there in the midwest or on the east coast doesn't mean that they're not playing good football. I still haven't seen anything you've told me to refute the fact the Pac-10 is the most competitive conference top to bottom.
Only one team doesn't have a shot to beat the top team in the conference, Arizona. *sigh*