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Garlon · 02-04-2023, 05:29 AM

If you use 200 AB for your adjust setting and use 1yr it looks for a total of 200 or more AB, if you use 3yr it looks for 600 AB over those seasons, if you use 5yr it will look for a total of 1000 AB over those seasons. If you are using 3yr double weight then it will be 800 AB, and if you are using 5yr double weight then it will be 1200 AB.

If you use 3yr recalc with 200 AB, for rookies and players in their final year it will only look for 400 AB because the player did not play before or after the given season.

If there are gaps in the middle of the career for a player it does not account for that. A good example of this is Hank Greenberg who missed 1942, 1943, and 1944 during WW II. If you are using 3yr recalc with 200 AB he is fine in 1941 because he has a total of 640 AB between 1940 and 1942. When the game moves to 1942 it sees he has only 67 AB between 1941 and 1943 and his ratings tank. In 1943 he has 0 AB between 1942 and 1944, so the game just holds over his previously tanked ratings from 1943. When you get to 1944, he only has 270 AB between 1943 and 1945 so he gets a new set of tanked ratings. When you get to 1945, he is fine because he has 793 AB between 1944 and 1946.

An option that I have always thought would be beneficial could be to have the game use "most recent 550 AB", so if in the focus season a player has 550 AB then the game uses that season, if the player is below 550 AB it will try 3yr recalc, and if 3yr recalc is still below 550 AB it will try 5yr recalc, and so forth until it has at least 550 AB. This could be the same for pitchers. If we added this to the game, it should only be an option because this will add a significant amount of talent to the league every season and reduce big seasons. There could be options for 1yr recalc, 3yr recalc, 5yr recalc, and "variable multiyear recalc" which is this model.

With variable multiyear recalc Greenberg and anyone else gets a good import every season. There are definitely problems with this though. There are players who broke into the majors but did not really play much for 5 or more seasons, and then when they did play they had a big season. Under this process this player could get an extra 5 seasons or more of great seasons. So perhaps we will need to just have variable multiyear recalc limited to using 1yr, 3yr, or 5yr but not further out than that to find 550 AB. There is no perfect solution to the import settings, but with 150 AB and 5yr recalc the only significant player I have seen with some issues is Hank Greenberg.

For historical games I use 5yr recalc and use either 150 or 200 AB for the adjust setting.

02-04-2023, 05:29 AM	#11
Garlon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,314	If you use 200 AB for your adjust setting and use 1yr it looks for a total of 200 or more AB, if you use 3yr it looks for 600 AB over those seasons, if you use 5yr it will look for a total of 1000 AB over those seasons. If you are using 3yr double weight then it will be 800 AB, and if you are using 5yr double weight then it will be 1200 AB. If you use 3yr recalc with 200 AB, for rookies and players in their final year it will only look for 400 AB because the player did not play before or after the given season. If there are gaps in the middle of the career for a player it does not account for that. A good example of this is Hank Greenberg who missed 1942, 1943, and 1944 during WW II. If you are using 3yr recalc with 200 AB he is fine in 1941 because he has a total of 640 AB between 1940 and 1942. When the game moves to 1942 it sees he has only 67 AB between 1941 and 1943 and his ratings tank. In 1943 he has 0 AB between 1942 and 1944, so the game just holds over his previously tanked ratings from 1943. When you get to 1944, he only has 270 AB between 1943 and 1945 so he gets a new set of tanked ratings. When you get to 1945, he is fine because he has 793 AB between 1944 and 1946. An option that I have always thought would be beneficial could be to have the game use "most recent 550 AB", so if in the focus season a player has 550 AB then the game uses that season, if the player is below 550 AB it will try 3yr recalc, and if 3yr recalc is still below 550 AB it will try 5yr recalc, and so forth until it has at least 550 AB. This could be the same for pitchers. If we added this to the game, it should only be an option because this will add a significant amount of talent to the league every season and reduce big seasons. There could be options for 1yr recalc, 3yr recalc, 5yr recalc, and "variable multiyear recalc" which is this model. With variable multiyear recalc Greenberg and anyone else gets a good import every season. There are definitely problems with this though. There are players who broke into the majors but did not really play much for 5 or more seasons, and then when they did play they had a big season. Under this process this player could get an extra 5 seasons or more of great seasons. So perhaps we will need to just have variable multiyear recalc limited to using 1yr, 3yr, or 5yr but not further out than that to find 550 AB. There is no perfect solution to the import settings, but with 150 AB and 5yr recalc the only significant player I have seen with some issues is Hank Greenberg. For historical games I use 5yr recalc and use either 150 or 200 AB for the adjust setting.