[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by thehef

Well, it's not just about QB's, but ya... So:

2019: Reich's first year, he turns around a 4-12 team (that, granted, was likely 4-12 because Brissett was the QB, not Luck) gets 11 wins, and wins a playoff game. In most cities, that's going to be successful 1st year as head coach.
2020: 2nd year, Luck retires TWO WEEKS before the start of the season (meaning there's no opportunity to acquire a decent starter), saddling Reich with Brissett. A 7-9 record with Brissett as your QB is not bad, IMO, given that Brissett is simply no better than average-for-a-backup... It doesn't tell the whole picture, but Brissett's career record as a starter is better with Reich (7-8) than it is under anyone else (7-15).
2021: 3rd year, he gets a proven NFL QB who's on his last legs (Rivers), and goes 11-5, making the playoffs. Nice rebound from the "no Luck" year.
2022: 4th year, he gets stuck with Carson Wentz, who most would agree is definitely a downgrade from even Old Man Rivers, and perhaps a slight upgrade from Brissett; goes 9-8. I'd say 9-8 with Wentz is pretty successful.
2023: 5th year, before getting the axe, he's stuck with a past-his-prime & pretty brutal Matt Ryan. Goes 3-5-1 on a team that goes 1-7 after his firing...

I'm not at all arguing against Steve Wilks. I'm just saying that I don't think Reich is a re-tread and that, rather, his record when taken in context with some the talent (mainly QB-related) challenges, is decent, and that he's earned another chance.

BTW, the Jags were decent team this year, going 9-8 and making the playoffs after a dismal 2021, closing the season strong, winning a playoff game, and giving the Chiefs all they could handle in the division around. Splitting with them during the regular season - as Reich did before he was let go - is no shame.

Your years are one off. It was confusing me......

......His 3rd & 4th year he had 2 of the worst teams in his division. That was (should) have been 4 automatic W's for a decent coach.

....He wasn't "stuck" w/Wentz. He wanted him.

.....He wasn't stuck w/Ryan. He wanted him.

And now here is the kicker.........If Tepper wants an offensive guru to guide a potential new 1st round QB, what in his above track record would suggest he has the ability to get the most out of a player in that position? He didn't get the best out of Brisette. He didn't get the best out of Wentz. He didn't get the best out of Ryan. And w/Rivers & Luck, they had one season w/him and were done. Two QB's who were still effective and decided to walk away. Think about it...............

I resigned myself to the fact Tepper was going away from Wilks a long time ago. But for this??????? You mean to tell me there was no better offensive mind available and willing to take this job?