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Old 11-19-2022, 11:26 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by luckymann View Post
AJ, can I just get you to clarify what you mean here.

Grab the Spritze18 DB. It has the better master file, whereas 19 was the final edition. I always suggest that you grab both. 18 for the Master file, and 19 for the DB, itself.

Are you saying point the DB path to v19 and just use 18 as your reference guide? Or am I missing something?

And I'm presuming these work with later versions - 22 / 23 in particular?

Thanks

G
I haven't tested them in OOTP23, and I didn't have a game going in OOTP22. I was kind of hooked on my OOTP21 Random Debut, and OOTP22 sorta passed me by.

What I suggest doing, is extracting both databases into your stats folder, to "embed" them in there. That way, you don't overwrite the standard DB, and each patch doesn't overwrite your Spritze stuff. Use the SpritzeHSforOOTP18 master to look up the players you want to bring in, because it's far more detailed than the flimsy SpritzeHSforOOTP19 master, which is very bare bones stuff. As Spritze became more involved with Historical Database issues, his DB kind of got left behind. I'm pretty sure they are very similar, if not identical, but you want the 18 master, for sure.

There are basically, a couple of things you can do, once you've got them both in your stats folder. You can do like me, and bring in a couple of Spritze guys per draft, but stick to the standard DB. If you wanted to do that, you would go to the Free Agent page, click on "Actions", and select "Import Historical Player(s)", and point to the SpritzeHSforOOTP19 folder, which is in your stats folder, if you've extracted it properly. Inside the SpritzeHSforOOTP19 folder, you would select historical_database.odb, and go from there, as you would with any import.

The same basic thing applies if you are using it as your primary DB. The only difference is that when you are setting up your game in the Historical Game Setup Wizard, the database path you would select would be:

C:\Users\Admin\Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 23\stats\SpritzeHSforOOTP19

Select historical_database.odb in that Database path, and Spritze will be your default database. Once your new game has started up, be sure to check Game Settings > League Settings > Historical > Historical Rookies Settings > Database Path:

to make sure that your Database Path is still the one outlined above. The SpritzeHSforOOTP18 folder is simply so that you have access to better info in your master.csv file. You'll see what I mean if you compare the two master files. There's no comparison, really. The 18 one is the one you need.

I haven't tested the Spritze DB on OOTP23, but I'm pretty sure it'll work, as I don't see much different from OOTP21 to OOTP23, in the DB. The rubber's really gonna meet the road when they merge the historical DB with the DB they use for the Standard Game in OOTP24.

Lukas tells me that they're working on that now. That could introduce a lot of bugs, even for someone playing a normal historical game. However, it could be terrific for historical games in the long run.

The information for each player will be far more detailed, and has the potential to create a better starting point for every player in the historical DB. I think all of this has all come about as a result of Perfect Team, and it's an opportunity to finally give the historical side of the game the attention it's needed for quite a while now. I think Historical's about to get a whole lot better for us. The only downside for me, is that I don't know how I'll be able to keep Spritze' legacy going beyond OOTP23, but I'll try to.

If you want to know the level of detail we're talking about, go to:

C:\Users\Admin\Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 23\database

and click on players.csv to open the master file for a Standard Game. Now, picture that level of detail in a Historical Game.

If what I've said about OOTP24 is making your eyes glaze over, disregard it, and focus on the OOTP23 stuff. It's probably too much, and should've been a separate post. The main takeaway, is that once the bugs get worked out, Historical games are going to get a lot better, starting in OOTP24.
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