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Pelican · 11-02-2022, 11:36 AM

If it makes anyone feel better, I am hoarse this morning from yelling CHEATER at Altuve and Bergman and Gurriel last night at the game. It’s infuriating that they got off with hand slaps and others (Hinch) took the fall for them. Whatever one thinks of McGwire or Clemens or Bonds, their cheating was biological, not in-game. Same with Rose and Shoeless Joe. They didn’t cheat.

The wonderful irony is that poor McCullers may have been tipping his pitches last night (he denies this; but I would too, if I thought I was tipping pitches, at least until I figured out how…. ) So, a team that won through cheating by tipping pitches to one another may have lost in part due to the Phillies hitters legitimately taking advantage of some inadvertent tipping of their own pitches.

I don’t think the Houston players were ready for Philly. This is not LA. Definitely not NYC. Fans are down to earth and explicit and in your face. Winners never cheat, and cheaters never win. What goes around, comes around. This is why 80%-90% of neutral baseball fans are rooting for the Phillies. Rooting against Houston. I feel bad for the Astro players who weren’t there in 2017. Guilt by association.

11-02-2022, 11:36 AM	#192
Pelican Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Wilmington, Delaware Posts: 2,934	If it makes anyone feel better, I am hoarse this morning from yelling CHEATER at Altuve and Bergman and Gurriel last night at the game. It’s infuriating that they got off with hand slaps and others (Hinch) took the fall for them. Whatever one thinks of McGwire or Clemens or Bonds, their cheating was biological, not in-game. Same with Rose and Shoeless Joe. They didn’t cheat. The wonderful irony is that poor McCullers may have been tipping his pitches last night (he denies this; but I would too, if I thought I was tipping pitches, at least until I figured out how…. ) So, a team that won through cheating by tipping pitches to one another may have lost in part due to the Phillies hitters legitimately taking advantage of some inadvertent tipping of their own pitches. I don’t think the Houston players were ready for Philly. This is not LA. Definitely not NYC. Fans are down to earth and explicit and in your face. Winners never cheat, and cheaters never win. What goes around, comes around. This is why 80%-90% of neutral baseball fans are rooting for the Phillies. Rooting against Houston. I feel bad for the Astro players who weren’t there in 2017. Guilt by association. __________________ Pelican OOTP 2020-? ”Hard to believe, Harry.”