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Old 10-31-2022, 05:21 PM   #162
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Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr View Post
Again, I have no qualms w/the flag. But I think it is too harsh to completely color what Moore did as "intentional". As if he didn't care about a penalty. He didn't think about the penalty. it was every bit as spontaneous as Brittney Chastain ripping off her jersey in front of 100000 plus. He just should have known better.
I guess we'll never know, but it was highly likely to be one of two things:

1. An emotional reaction without thought, which is somewhat understandable but speaks to a lack of self-control & awareness (not an endorsement but not a crime, either).
2. The incorrect & selfish assumption that "I just won the game for us, so I don't give a damn about some stupid rule! It's all about me!"

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As long as the player isn't trying to downgrade the other team w/their celebrating I could care less. Yeah I prefer Barry Sanders tossing the ball to the ref. But I try to distance what I like & dislike from what is right & wrong. And how people celebrate within the the guidelines of common decency isn't a hill I feel worth dying on. Why make an issue out of what isn't an issue? ... Its an appeasement to old farts who like to dictate the benign behavior of other people. Karen gonna Karen.
While I pretty much agree, at the same time I don't see a problem with rules that attempt to enforce some class & decorum... Apparently we are both ok with rules that punish celebrations that downgrade the other team. You disagree, but I also approve of rules that attempt to curtail the selfish & angry "it's all about me!" displays. There are surely others that disagree with us both and love the taunting-the-opponent stuff. So with that having been said, I don't see any need to call name-call as "old farts" & "Karens" those with whom you - hopefully, respectfully, but perhaps not - disagree.

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You're right. I don't see it as classless. I see it as individuals being themselves. Sanders giving the ball to the ref or Cam giving the ball to a kid in the stands are just different choices. Heisman poses, doing the funky chicken, grabbing popcorn, throwing the ball into the stands, spiking the ball are all benign choices.
I pretty much agree. As I indicated previously, I mainly don't like the angry "look at me" stuff. Rather than rules to enforce it, I'd prefer to see some sort of natural evolution away from it... As a few have said, in effect: "Freedom should be in doing not what we like, but what we ought." One of my favorite quotes, btw
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