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Originally Posted by Brad K
Here is what is in the manual
The manager visits the pitcher on the mound. This option is usually used to try to calm down the pitcher if he has gotten in trouble. This option also helps use up some time if you are warming up a relief pitcher, and gives the manager a better idea of how tired his pitcher is.
"try to calm down the pitcher". No indication if it might work.
"gives the manager a better idea of how tired his pitcher is". What manger? Not the human manager. And that's the only one who can order a mound visit. There is no additional information to be gained about fatigue from a mound visit.
"You'd have to ask them. PM them if it is a concern for you?" I'm trying to answer questions just like others here. It's not a personal concern. I'm just trying to be helpful. The fact I disagree with you and others doesn't mean I'm not trying to be helpful.
It's evident from multiple discussions on this board that the devs don't know the details of how the game works. Changes were not properly documented contemporaneously and as scary as it sounds the game manual is probably the best documentation that exists.
That's why you get answers like "If I remember correctly" and "I think what we did there was"
OOTP is a remarkable achievement. It's a great game. And it accomplishes that despite best practices for documentation not being followed. (I didn't even reach "kinda good practices!"  )
Anyway, the non committal wording in the manual for the effect on the pitcher and the completely wrong comment on determining fatigue tells me this feature is cosmetic. And it should be for historical games. |
It tells you it is just cosmetic? Ok..
The pitcher will literally tell you, the manager, that he is "still strong", "starting to run out of gas", "exhausted" etc. (not the exact words but an approx thing the P might tell you). So how is this completely wrong on determining fatigue?
Do you actually play out your games and use the mound visit feature? Not a game, here and there, but over a long haul?
The wording tells you it is cosmetic. 4,374 played out games tells me it is not cosmetic. Guess which way I'm leaning?
Yeah, I was the first to quote the manual in this thread. And yes, it does say..
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This option is usually used to try to calm down the pitcher
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Nothing ambiguous there.. It literally says "usually used". Can't use something that isn't there.
That's why I say it does the developer no good to comment. Even though it's in the manual, if they double down. they won't be believed.
Look at the game engine, how many times they've said it's the same whether
you sim or play out the games. Only to be told by some users, time and time again, that is not true. According to those users the engines are definitely different depending on how you play.
About historical..
Historical, like any league you play, you can choose not to use the visits. Me? When I play historical I use real lineups and just watch the games play out. Kind of like going back in time to my youth. I couldn't visit the mound if I wanted to. Others that play historical and manage too, may want the feature. Nothing wrong with that. Let' them play it their way.
Nowhere have I said you weren't trying to be helpful.
Well looking at last year's thread there is this..
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Originally Posted by Brad K
I just realized my comments are irrelevant. I don't play out games anymore!
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Has something changed?