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dcordash · 03-27-2022, 03:30 PM

I've seen many posts out here complaining of the simulation and statistical accuracy of OOTP. I've been playing for nearly 20 years (not every year for sure do I purchase) and agree it's, for sure, not exactly what it's marketed as.

Many people, myself for sure, purchase the game to recreate last year/this year. Sometimes historical seasons with some of our fave seasons of the past.

Never have I seen a season that culminated in more than a handful or so of real-life outcomes. Top 10 pitchers/batters/closers/whatever nearly matching. For example, peruse the top 20 batters for any given season you replicate. If you see even 10 from the list that match the actual season...that's an outlier.

Undoubtedly I've completed season's with many more anomalies than close proximities. We ALL know MLB player's numbers can be greatly skewed from season to seasons. Injuries, attitude, many things can play a part. Would be the first to agree. BUT, OOTP generally doesn't even get a 50% "close" match. in other words, of the 906 that start the season..you might have 400 that finish with stats that are within a 10% alignment of what they do in real life. That's not "just baseball" that's a statistical engine that fails to get it right. Nearly a randomized process.
No offense.

Again a lot, if not most, people buy this game in order to create a real-life season. Mimic a favorite team or players they grew up with..predict the outcome of the next season starting with the "actual" lineups that OOTP has packaged in their game.

The standings are seldom close..typically just like picking names out of a hat.

For those that play strictly with fictional teams, which I did for a couple seasons myself, you might "feel" like you're seeing results a little more in line with what the ratings indicate, but that's never been my experience. From nearly 20 years of playing I've never realized that moment, following a completed single-season or even 10-year franchise where stats/W-L matched what the player stats suggested they should. Typically, after a couple of these randomly generated outcomes, I just hang it up and move on to MLB the Show. Which, quite honestly, generated numbers much closer to real-life than OOTP (a sim) that you would expect o.

And, I have a pretty good point of reference and example. Played a lot of Strat-o-Matic board game growing up, both football and baseball, the final season numbers/stats/standings were nearly identical to real-life. Some may not like that type outcome..I thought it was great and why I purchased those games. Wish I could find something similar for the PC.

03-27-2022, 03:30 PM	#1
dcordash Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 103	I can relate to the complaints I've seen many posts out here complaining of the simulation and statistical accuracy of OOTP. I've been playing for nearly 20 years (not every year for sure do I purchase) and agree it's, for sure, not exactly what it's marketed as. Many people, myself for sure, purchase the game to recreate last year/this year. Sometimes historical seasons with some of our fave seasons of the past. Never have I seen a season that culminated in more than a handful or so of real-life outcomes. Top 10 pitchers/batters/closers/whatever nearly matching. For example, peruse the top 20 batters for any given season you replicate. If you see even 10 from the list that match the actual season...that's an outlier. Undoubtedly I've completed season's with many more anomalies than close proximities. We ALL know MLB player's numbers can be greatly skewed from season to seasons. Injuries, attitude, many things can play a part. Would be the first to agree. BUT, OOTP generally doesn't even get a 50% "close" match. in other words, of the 906 that start the season..you might have 400 that finish with stats that are within a 10% alignment of what they do in real life. That's not "just baseball" that's a statistical engine that fails to get it right. Nearly a randomized process. No offense. Again a lot, if not most, people buy this game in order to create a real-life season. Mimic a favorite team or players they grew up with..predict the outcome of the next season starting with the "actual" lineups that OOTP has packaged in their game. The standings are seldom close..typically just like picking names out of a hat. For those that play strictly with fictional teams, which I did for a couple seasons myself, you might "feel" like you're seeing results a little more in line with what the ratings indicate, but that's never been my experience. From nearly 20 years of playing I've never realized that moment, following a completed single-season or even 10-year franchise where stats/W-L matched what the player stats suggested they should. Typically, after a couple of these randomly generated outcomes, I just hang it up and move on to MLB the Show. Which, quite honestly, generated numbers much closer to real-life than OOTP (a sim) that you would expect o. And, I have a pretty good point of reference and example. Played a lot of Strat-o-Matic board game growing up, both football and baseball, the final season numbers/stats/standings were nearly identical to real-life. Some may not like that type outcome..I thought it was great and why I purchased those games. Wish I could find something similar for the PC.